"Am I the only person who noticed that Michael Moore stole his title from Ray Bradbury's book "Farenheight 451"? "
No. You're not
"Am I also the only one who noticed that Moore didn't have the right to use or parody Bradbuy's title in any way?"
You have the right to parody whatever you want, whenever you want. It's an American Right.
"Bradbury gave an interview and said that, about a month after F 9/11 came out, he got a call from Moore. Moore was at a fucking party on the phone with one of the greatest authors of all time, whom he stole a title from, said, basically, "sorry", and hung up."
He didn't steal the title. It was parody. And who gives a shit how much respect he gave to Ray Bradbury? The documentary should be judged on it's own merits, NOT all this periphary shit.
"(In the interview, Moore calls Bush a criminal. Last time I checked, plagarism is a crime.)"
There was no plagarism. Stop lying. And it's not even slander/libel. Bush IS a criminal. Check his arrest history.
"Michael Moore is an opportunist, plain and simple."
And politicians are what? The whole point of _F911_ was to offer a theory that Bush took the opportunity given by the 9-11 attacks to further a war in Iraq. Again...STOP worrying about the director and worry about the film on it's own merits.
" Let's look at his two best-known films: Bowling for Columbine, and F 9/11. Columbine is about that rash of school shootings back in 1998-1999, which was one of the big issues of the time that everyone was worried about. Now along comes F 9/11, and holy shit, look was the movie is about and what the big debate is today. He's just taking advantage of the most popular issue today, which is the definition of opportunism. So, if he's so great at presenting issues, where are his films on AIDS in Africa, or child labor in Asia? Nowhere to be found, because those aren't front-line issues."
I don't understand you. One minute you're saying that Michael Moore needs to never make another movie again (paraphrasing). Now you're saying that Michael Moore needs to make movies about every negative issue in the Universe. Again... STOP MAKING EXCUSES WITH THE EXTERNAL SHIT AND JUDGE THE MOVIE ON IT'S OWN MERITS.
"I thought this was interesting in F 9/11. Michael Moore says that Saddam never threatened the life of an American. But later in the film he says that one of the reasons Bush went to war with Iraq is because Saddam tried to kill his father, Bush Sr. Last time I checked, you had to be an American citizen to be President."
Sadaam never threated the life of an American UNTIL A BUNCH OF AMERICANS CAME TO HIS COUNTRY TO KICK HIS BITCH ASS. I don't care if he is an asshole who needs to die, he still has a right GIVEN TO HIM BY GOD to at least try to defend himself when attacked on his own soil by forgien forces. That's the reality of war. Just because you have good intentions, doesn't mean that your opponents should just turn around, bend over and not even ask for a reach around.
"As to the "would you send your children..." argument, if you sign up for the military, you should know what you're getting yourself into. You sign a shitload of forms that say you are willing to die to protect the nation. No one forces you to. To join the military, you either have to be 18, when you're an adult and you're parents aren't responsible for the choices you make, YOU are, or you can join at 17 when you have PARENT'S PERMISSION. Henceforth, the "would you send your children..." argument goes straight out the window."
Many of us signed up to battle the faggot terrorists that attacked the Towers, The U.S.S. Cole, etc. We didn't sign up to make more money for Bush and his friends.
"I just realized something. Moore says in the interview "I can think of nothing worse than lying to the nation." Perhaps some of you will know who said this: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman. Miss Lewinsky""
So what? Moore gave Clinton shit about this. What's your point? Do you want him to make a documentary about that to? You fucking pervert.
"Hey, perhaps you didn't hear, but the 9/11 commission cleared Bush of any lies or wrongdoing. The blame is being placed on intelligence agency fuckups."
Hey, perhaps you didn't hear, but the 9-11 commission is made up of a bunch of fucks who want to have a political career when this is over. You do the math.
"If you watched the interview, you would know that US, British and Russian intelligence all came up with the same answer. So, Bush didn't lie in the first place, he made a decision based on the data he was given, just like we're doing now. If someone gives you bad directions, and you pass those bad directions along to someone and they get lost, does that make you a liar? No, you made a mistake that wasn't even your fault."
Oh, I don't know. HE IS THE FUCKING COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF. There's an old saying: THE BUCK STOPS HERE. Bush needs to take the blame for all the fuck-ups in his administration and leave. If that means maving another GOP Party candidate in 2004, SO BE IT. Too bad he know he has people like you who will lie for him, die for him, and turn around bend over and not even ask for a reach around.
Also, the idea that the President would say "Hey, give me an idea on if I should start a war." and runs with that idea based on facts that were shaky (and found to be obviously wrong after MINIMAL investigation) tells me that he's the most retarded businessman in the universe. This is why we can't have CEO in charge of the United States Government.
"On question. Why is that when people in debates can't think of an adequate response for a legitimate statement, they respond with an insult to the other person, such as: "Fucktard, you got so wound up over this one, I bet you're sitting at your computer yanking your little wee wee over that rant.....get a life."
If you can't think up an adequate response besides half-assed insults, just don't waste anyone's time.
I don't care what side you're on, discussions like this aren't about that. It's about how you defend your point of view. I like and respect anyone who can back up their opinion. Hell, I don't care if you like Al Sharpton as long as you defend your reasons adequately. Its when your ideas are based on the concept "Bush is a retard" and the only way you can back that up is with insults that it gets stupid. "
This is not a political show. This is the internet. This is a kick ass website where people get together to have fun and enjoy funny shit, porn shit, and sometimes comment on politics. It's strange that you would act like you have the most intimate knowledge of the American Political system, copyright law, paropdy law, etc etc, but you have no concept of the Internet cultures and why why people would post what they do.
I'm going to sum this up:
You don't know what you're talking about. (your "facts" are pretty much falsehoods)
You don't make logical sense. (Like, I shouldn't believe a documentary because Clinton got his cock smoked in the White House)
You don't even try to understand the valid points of what somebody might offer. (You can coat a diamond in a tub of shit, but the diamond is still a diamond)
I hate posting on webboards, but I really really hope this is an eye opener for you. God knows that BUSH has been giving you the BROWN EYE OPENER, so try to close that one and see the lies that he's been pushing on us all.
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