The war on Terror
Its not wise to try and argue with Mao. Contemplater learned the hard way.
<a href='http://dontlinkthis.com/board/index.php ... =6535&st=0' target='_blank'>Downfall of Cuntemplater</a>
Read her tale and realize that he'll do the same to you without batting an eye.
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Read her tale and realize that he'll do the same to you without batting an eye.
You are a sad little man Mage.BlackMage wrote:Its not wise to try and argue with Mao. Contemplater learned the hard way.
<a href='http://dontlinkthis.com/board/index.php ... =6535&st=0' target='_blank'>Downfall of Cuntemplater</a>
Read her tale and realize that he'll do the same to you without batting an eye.
That'd be more like a "groovy" world.UncleMao wrote:Brilliant. Since that would be in a Bizzaro world to this one, where nobody gives a shit about anythingrion wrote:I'd prefer to go live in a remote corner of the world where I'll be undisturbed than give a shit about anything anyone has said in this thread.
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<span style='font-size:6pt;line-height:100%'>(I hate the groovies)</span>
Interesting article on how do you "measure success" in the war on terror. From <a href='http://www.usnews.com/usnews/opinion/ar ... barone.htm' target='_blank'>US News & World Reports</a>.
To put the election in perspective, the last Democrat to win a higher percentage of the popular vote was Johnson in 1964.
And to put this current strategy for the "war on terror" in a historical perspective, read up on the criticism to FDR's choice to go after Germany first, when Japan was the one that attacked America. One of the reasons was that the U.S. feared Germany had WMDs (we called it "the bomb" back then). Guess what? Germany wasn't even close to having an atomic bomb. Oops - I guess FDR was wrong to invade. Maybe Michael Moore can remake that HBO special and call it Band of Babykillers...
You're wrong, Rick. This does say a lot about the folks that chose a leader that said (however grammatically poorly) he would work to achieve a vision of "spreading freedom and democracy" versus someone that was personally articulate but couldn't articulate a plan.Metrics are hard to come by in the war on terrorism.
. . . Now comes the Pew Global Attitudes Project's recent survey of opinion in six Muslim countries to tell us that progress is being made in achieving that goal. Minds are being changed and in the right direction.
Most important, support for terrorism in defense of Islam has "declined dramatically," in the Pew report's words, in Muslim countries, except in Jordan (which has a Palestinian majority) and Turkey, where support has remained a low 14 percent. It has fallen in Indonesia (from 27 to 15 percent since 2002), Pakistan (from 41 to 25 percent since 2004), Morocco (from 40 to 13 percent since 2004), and among Muslims in Lebanon (from 73 to 26 percent since 2002). Support for suicide bombings against Americans in Iraq has also declined. The percentage reporting some confidence in Osama bin Laden is now under 10 percent in Lebanon and Turkey and has fallen sharply in Indonesia.
Similarly, when asked whether democracy was a western way of doing things or could work well in their own country, between 77 and 83 percent in Lebanon, Morocco, Jordan, and Indonesia say it could work in their country--in each case a significant increase from earlier surveys. In Turkey, with its sharp political divisions, and Pakistan, with its checkered history, the percentages hover around 50 percent.
Polls in the United States may show that Americans have become less supportive of our efforts in Iraq as the suicide bombings and roadside-bomb attacks continue. But the Pew polls in these Muslim countries show that those attacks have moved Muslim opinion against the terrorists and toward democracy. Muslims around the world cannot help but notice that Iraq is moving, however imperfectly, toward representative government. They can't have missed the "Cedar Revolution" in Lebanon and the expulsion of Syrian forces from Beirut. They may have noticed the small concessions to democracy in Saudi Arabia.
They may also have noticed that Egypt will have its first contested election for president this year. . .
To put the election in perspective, the last Democrat to win a higher percentage of the popular vote was Johnson in 1964.
And to put this current strategy for the "war on terror" in a historical perspective, read up on the criticism to FDR's choice to go after Germany first, when Japan was the one that attacked America. One of the reasons was that the U.S. feared Germany had WMDs (we called it "the bomb" back then). Guess what? Germany wasn't even close to having an atomic bomb. Oops - I guess FDR was wrong to invade. Maybe Michael Moore can remake that HBO special and call it Band of Babykillers...
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BlackMage wrote:Its not wise to try and argue with Mao. Contemplater learned the hard way.
<a href='http://dontlinkthis.com/board/index.php ... =6535&st=0' target='_blank'>Downfall of Cuntemplater</a>
Read her tale and realize that he'll do the same to you without batting an eye.
What, he'll try extra hard to come up with mean things to say about someone he's never spoken to?
Oh and btw, I see in that thread that you defended her, so that's kind of odd that you would use it to show me the "power of mao" when you yourself disagreed with his assholishness.
All in all, I really give less than two shits about either of you, but when it comes down to it
But I've learned to live with it.
I didn't read all that(and therefore choose to copy it all rather than try and select the neccessary bits), but I will say my comment was solely directed as a response to the "Bush is an idiot" comment made just prior... kind of a 'presuming the afore mentioned statement is true, then, what does that say of Americans in general' ... meh.steampunk wrote:Interesting article on how do you "measure success" in the war on terror. From <a href='http://www.usnews.com/usnews/opinion/ar ... barone.htm' target='_blank'>US News & World Reports</a>.
You're wrong, Rick. This does say a lot about the folks that chose a leader that said (however grammatically poorly) he would work to achieve a vision of "spreading freedom and democracy" versus someone that was personally articulate but couldn't articulate a plan.Metrics are hard to come by in the war on terrorism.
. . . Now comes the Pew Global Attitudes Project's recent survey of opinion in six Muslim countries to tell us that progress is being made in achieving that goal. Minds are being changed and in the right direction.
Most important, support for terrorism in defense of Islam has "declined dramatically," in the Pew report's words, in Muslim countries, except in Jordan (which has a Palestinian majority) and Turkey, where support has remained a low 14 percent. It has fallen in Indonesia (from 27 to 15 percent since 2002), Pakistan (from 41 to 25 percent since 2004), Morocco (from 40 to 13 percent since 2004), and among Muslims in Lebanon (from 73 to 26 percent since 2002). Support for suicide bombings against Americans in Iraq has also declined. The percentage reporting some confidence in Osama bin Laden is now under 10 percent in Lebanon and Turkey and has fallen sharply in Indonesia.
Similarly, when asked whether democracy was a western way of doing things or could work well in their own country, between 77 and 83 percent in Lebanon, Morocco, Jordan, and Indonesia say it could work in their country--in each case a significant increase from earlier surveys. In Turkey, with its sharp political divisions, and Pakistan, with its checkered history, the percentages hover around 50 percent.
Polls in the United States may show that Americans have become less supportive of our efforts in Iraq as the suicide bombings and roadside-bomb attacks continue. But the Pew polls in these Muslim countries show that those attacks have moved Muslim opinion against the terrorists and toward democracy. Muslims around the world cannot help but notice that Iraq is moving, however imperfectly, toward representative government. They can't have missed the "Cedar Revolution" in Lebanon and the expulsion of Syrian forces from Beirut. They may have noticed the small concessions to democracy in Saudi Arabia.
They may also have noticed that Egypt will have its first contested election for president this year. . .
To put the election in perspective, the last Democrat to win a higher percentage of the popular vote was Johnson in 1964.
And to put this current strategy for the "war on terror" in a historical perspective, read up on the criticism to FDR's choice to go after Germany first, when Japan was the one that attacked America. One of the reasons was that the U.S. feared Germany had WMDs (we called it "the bomb" back then). Guess what? Germany wasn't even close to having an atomic bomb. Oops - I guess FDR was wrong to invade. Maybe Michael Moore can remake that HBO special and call it Band of Babykillers...
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