Conservativism

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For anyone out there who wondered why the democrats and liberals were making such a big stink about blocking Alito and Roberts, here's some scary shit.

<a href='http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/ ... 7-07-07-04' target='_blank'>http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/ ... 7-07-04</a>

but wait...there's more!

<a href='http://www.katu.com/stories/83961.html' target='_blank'>http://www.katu.com/stories/83961.html</a>

It's starting...

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For anyone out there who wondered why the democrats and liberals were making such a big stink about blocking Alito and Roberts, here's some scary shit.

<a href='http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/ ... 7-07-07-04' target='_blank'>http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/ ... 7-07-04</a>

but wait...there's more!

<a href='http://www.katu.com/stories/83961.html' target='_blank'>http://www.katu.com/stories/83961.html</a>

It's starting...

I don't get what's scary about this. You linked to two stories about state legislatures. Last I looked, the people of the respective states voted them into office (and as an aside, have no means to vote in -- or out -- a SCOTUS justice).

If TN and SD want abortion to be legal, then simply vote into office a majority of legislators that support it. That's what bothers me about Roe v. Wade - not that it's pro- or anti-abortion. It's the fact that it uses convoluted logic to pull a law out of the hands of elected representatives.

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<span style='color:maroon'>But the whole SC overturning thing still works too though, doesn't it?



That might be faster, I don't know.

It's certainly more wide-spread, and I would think if you have a particular stance on a subject like abortion you probably think everyone else should have it too.

Can't have those pregnant tweens going out of state to get unscrewed.







Actually, though, my grasp of politics might not be the best, so if I'm blatently missing something, please be gentle.</span>

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<span style='color:maroon'>But the whole SC overturning thing still works too though, doesn't it?</span>

Yeah. And that's the thing. Overturning Roe v. Wade does not "outlaw" abortions. It simply kicks it "downstairs" and back into the hands of the state (and national) legislatures.


That's why politicians secretly love Roe v. Wade. They can rant and rave and show pictures of dead babies and wave coat-hangers until they're blue in the face.

Because they

Will.
Never.
Vote.

one way or the other on a "major" abortion issue.

They'll nibble around the edges with parental consent laws or late-term policies. But the "yes" and "no" question is out of their hands.

So, they get to look principled without putting their principles on the line.



Oh, and with regards to TN -- it's a long haul to get abortion outlawed via the state constitution (as I understand it from reading the news).

1) Vote it through both sides of the state legislature with a simple majority. (It's only now passed the state Senate; it still must pass the state House).

2) Come back next year and vote it through the legislature again -- but with a 2/3rds majority.

3) Have the people vote it up with a majority.

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It's not even about the abortion topic that has me scared, Steampunk. It's the idea that we're ushering in a neo-con focused 'challenge' against things.

It just seems like the shit is brewing...