SAD IF TRUE

Libby Hoeller died?

I will make this short and sweet. I have been a big fan of “libby” for many years. Lord knows that when I saw her first vid living in Oklahoma I never had any idea tha I would have anything to do with her. But as fate would have it My wife graduated from med school and we moved to Wisconsin for her Residency in E.R. Medicine and I took a job at the Sheriff’s office as a Reserve Deputy, just to kill time. I have tried to forget about Libby and have been fairly successful for almost 7 months but something brought me back and in short…due to that i found this page. (I said this would be short and it has already been to long) so here goes 8 months ago Elizabeth Forcey and her husband were both involved in a auto ped accident both Libby, her husband and the pedestrian Albert Moon all three were killed I’m not going to go into specifics… don’t believe if you don’t want too whatever I don’t care… I just thought I would share and try to lay this to rest… and yes I did work the accident. I can’t tell even begin to tell you how how ironic I thought it was that I was there. enough said…

Trooper

It’s a known fact that Libby’s middle name is Margaret and googling Elizabeth Forcey does bring up a Elizabeth M. Forcey along with some Residential Property Information with an address that’s not too far off from the address mentioned in this old post.

Sad if this is all true.

“SUSIE” (A.K.A LIBBY HOELLER)

Ever wonder what Libby Hoeller is up to these days?

Well, the last time we heard about her on this site was back in early 2005 when one of my readers bumped into her and scored her signature*.

Which he actually framed.

Hey, i would’ve done the same.

*(story after the jump)

Anyway, i stumbled upon this article in New York Magazine about Kids, the Internet, and the End of Privacy and…

LO AND BEHOLD.

I think they’re talking about Libby Hoeller.

Take “Susie,” a girl whose real name I won’t use because I don’t want to make her any more Googleable. Back in 2000, Susie filmed some videos for her then-boyfriend: she stripped, masturbated, blew kisses at the Webcam – surely just one of many to use her new computer this way. Then someone (it’s not clear who, but probably her boyfriend’s roommate) uploaded the videos. This was years before YouTube, when Kaazaa and Morpheus ruled. Susie’s films became the earliest viral videos and turned her into an accidental online porn star, with her own Wikipedia entry.

I’m cited in that Wikipedia entry by the way. Thanks to my Libby post.

The nymag story dated February 12th so it’s fairly recent. Libby seems to be doing alright despite her ‘fame’ (The Libby post still gets comments).

And hey! The article even talks about that Mastercard Revenge chick!

Nothing about Psycho Girl though. Fail.

Have a read.

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Libby Hoeller Lives

Been sorta sitting on this for over a week now. Couldn’t get around to posting about it until now but nevertheless, here it is:

hi justin. i have been here for awhile just lurking. i live in madison, wi and i am very familiar with the libby hoeller saga. today while working (i work for a major clothing retailer), two people approached me while i was working at the registers. i processed the transaction as per usual and when she handed over her card for me to swipe and i decided to look at the name this once out of boredom. low and fucking behold, the name on the front of the card was elizabeth hoeller. i looked at it again, ,y eyes widened, and i looked at her. she was still signing her name to the charge draft slip so she didnt notice me gawking at her. i couldn’t believe it. i sent her on her way and continued on with my line of people.

and in case you didn’t believe me, i saved the charge draft to prove that elizabeth hoeller did indeed use my register and interacted with me. i have to black out the account and other sensitive information, but if you would like to see it, i will send a scan of the receipt, a picture of me with it, and any other proof you may need. you were the first person i thought of when i discovered it was her.

  • The Libby Receipt

    Ah Libby Hoeller… your legend still lives on.

    I don’t know what’s funnier. The fact that i’ve become somehow associated with her or the fact that the receipt was framed.

    Thanks to mitchevious for sending this in.

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  • Libby Hoeller Suicide?

    From my guestbook:

    Fullname: Howard Letterman
    Where are you from?: Marksville, PA
    Comments: This just in(holy fuck)! I was looking around, and I thought you guys should know that Libby Hoeller has killed herself. According to reports, part of the suicide note she left said “The weight of the world has crushed my spirit. No one can see me for who I am anymore. It’s unbearable that I can no longer continue my life without someone asking me horrible things about myself every second.”

    UPDATE:

    It’s already been disproved in the comments but just in case you need even more confirmation:

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    To: webmaster@psykotik.zzn.com
    Subject: Libby Hoeller Death Disproved
    From:”Rodrego”
    Date:Wed, 04 Aug 2004 14:09:43 -0500

    hey justin,

    i read your post today about how Libby Hoeller “killed herself.” like most of the other posters, i did not believe this for one second. anyways, i have a subscription to peoplefinders.com so i decided to go on it and search for Elizabeth Hoeller in WI. The search resulted in what I think is the real Elizabeth M. Hoeller from the videos. Her address is 800 W GLEN RIVER RD; MILWAUKEE, WI 53217. It says she is 21 years old and her birthday is September 18, 1982. The reason I believe that this is her is because the person that sent you the picture of Libby at the bar on her birthday said that he sent you the email a few days after her birthday, and he sent the email on September 23, and Peoplefinders.com said that her birthday is 5 days before he sent the email. So then I decided to do a death search for her, but she was not found as deceased in the multiple databases that it searches. Those databases are updated daily, so I assume that she is alive and doing well. Just wanted to give you an update =:)
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    What’s up Libby stalkers

    I got an e-mail today with some new information about Libby Hoeler:

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    To: psykotik@gmail.com
    Subject: libby hoeller, alive and well
    From: “mazaru monkey”
    Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 02:21:55 +0000

    her birthday was a few days ago…she was at a bar in madison here’s a pic of her taken just a few days ago (the one on the right 😉 http://www.niggaswithpuppets.com/braddansamlibby.jpg

    she’s apparently doing fine…and still in madison too.
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    You know i could probably make a whole website out of that one page. The popularity of that page knows no bounds. To this day, people are still leaving comments for that post.

    Anyhow, here’s a mirrored link to that picture up there just incase it gets taken down.

    Libby update

    New developments in the Libby Hoeler story:

    “I was bored and stumbled on this site the other day. As a student at Marquette University in Milwaukee I had become aware of the Libby videos roughly two years ago. I was suprised when I read that the story provided on this site, and apparently considered to be the real story, differed so much from the one going around the Marquette campus. I decided to ask a few people I knew from DSHA, Marquette High and UW Madison what they had heard and their stories coincided with what I had already heard…” – Posted by MUguy – 4:48pm August 13, 2002

    The rest of this story can be found in the comments section of the Libby post. Click here to read more.

    Libby Hoeler poetry!

    Oh Libby Hoeler You Fuckwhore

    Oh Libby Hoeler,
    you fuckwhore,
    you gorgeous stupid broad,
    you made videos of you touching yourself
    for your boyfriend
    (whoever he was)
    Good for you.

    But they got out onto the Internet
    when you angered him.
    This was his retaliation.
    Good for him.

    Hehe.

    More here. Credit to Red Eye for the link.

  • Don’t know who Libby is? Click!
  • E-mails/Libby

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    To: psykotik@gmail.com
    Subject: fubar….
    From: “Ted Leclair” tgleclair@qwest.net
    Date: Mon, Apr 15 2002 5:15:54 PM -0700

    I just wanted to drop you a line telling you that I laughed my ass off reading some of your shit. You’re a funny kid, you have the same sense of humor me and my buddies did back in school. I also understand your desire to spend a lot of time looking up famous women on the net. I’ve been to Kalamazoo (U of M Grad), the women there are not much to speak of. Good work you’re pretty funny.

    Where in the hell did you find those Amy Jo Johnson nude vid caps?

    Jabs
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    I am a funny kid.

    It’s finals week next week. And i also gotta be moving out into a new dorm room soon for the Spring and Summer semesters. So bleh. I’m probably gonna have my hands tied doing stuff for the next two weeks. Studying and prepping for the move and shit.

    Hands tied… doing stuff…

    That’s an oxymoron if i ever heard one.

    But anyway, how about some Beach Blanket Britney!

    And as i promised, a little update on the Libby Hoeler story. Well, like i said before… it’s not really much at all. Y’see, a reader of mine… well, he… um… he… blah. I’ll let him do the talking:

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    To: psykotik@gmail.com
    Subject: Libby Hoeller/Heller… whatever.
    From: “Liquid” liquid@***.net
    Date: Sun, Apr 14 2002 2:04:57 AM -0700

    Justin —

    So I’m reading your rants, and I happen to be unusually entertained by them. Ok. Not unusually. More like its the fucking status quo. Never mind that tho.

    When I read your little “synopsis” on Mrs. Hoeller/Heller/Whatever, I recalled that one of the posts mentioned that her name/address was put at the beginning of the now quite infamous strip-cams. I also remember thinking that it sounded more like web-lore than anything else. No one would possible know this sort of crap one way or another in the vast sludge known as the internet. However, I recently deleted my libby-‘stash’ by accident, and started looking for suitable replacements, when it seems that I actually ran across a version that still had the name in the opening I enclosed a .jpg just for kicks. Not sure if you care, but what the hell. I thought it was sort of surprising, and anything I can do to further your research into the hoeller-case.

    Like I said, I thought that part of the story would HAVE to be bullshit.

    I guess not.

    Best,
    Chris
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    Libby’s address.

    I guess it wouldn’t hurt to post it up here. Since i’m sure she’s not living there anymore.

    Okay. Now i’m slightly confused. Is it Hoeller? Or Heller? Because according to one UWM student, her last name is Heller. And according to another, she lived in Sellery Hall. But in the screenshot, it says Hoeler. Not Heller. The Sellery thing checks out though. That seems to be true. But as for her name, which is it? Hoeler or Heller?

    Does anybody know? Does anybody even care??

    If you missed my little ‘synopsis’ thing on the whole Libby deal, click here. I’ve also updated it with this new bit of info. That being the address thing.

    So there you go. You have been updated.

    Libby Hoeller: The Complete Story

    Well okay, not really COMPLETE complete but pretty close. Or maybe not. All i’m doing is really just throwing together every bit of information other people have gathered about Elizabeth Hoeller, otherwise known as Libby Hoeller, onto one page.

    Because i’m bored and i have nothing else better to do. So for those of you who don’t know, this is BASICALLY how the story goes:

    Chick has boyfriend. Chick makes videos of herself doing a striptease for boyfriend. Somewhere along the lines, chick cheats on boyfriend. Boyfriend gets pissed. Boyfriend send videos to EVERYONE. Videos somehow get onto P2P file sharing servers (Morpheus/Kazaa etc etc). And everything else after that… is a mystery.

    You’ve probably heard different takes on the whole Libby Hoeller story. What’s true? And what’s not? I can’t tell you what exactly happened (because i don’t really know myself) but i can show you what other people (who claim to have first hand information about her) have said.

    I’ve recently had my eyes opened wide and starry by an amazing video starring a girl called Libby Hoeler. Apparently she went to University of Wisconsin and made these home videos with her webcam for her boyfriend who was away. Like I said, they were for her boyfriend’s eyes only. Something must have happened between the two of them because he leaked the clips with her name, address and phone number genlocked at the start. Before long, they had circulated far and wide and poor Libby Hoeler became an involuntary internet legend. There are supposedly 10 or so clips in circulation, and the one I watched is called “The Complete Libby Hoeler.mpg” even though it is only a merge of 5 of them. They all have sound and she sings as she dances to a various songs.

    I am a strong advocate for the “some things should remain sacred” school of thought. Nothing the girl did to him could have justified his actions. I started feeling pissed off on her behalf when watching it. It was so personal and here it was for the world to see. What really made me mad was the way she kept pointing to the camera everytime the word “you” came up in the song lyics. (eg. “i love YOU”, “… for YOU”, etc). She ended each clip by blowing a kiss at the camera. Her jerk of a boyfriend sure didn’t deserve her. He apparently received a 12 month jail sentence, mild consolation for Libby who probably had her life ruined.

    That’s the dominant story in my crude search engine investigations. Another theory was that her bf’s roommate found and released the clips.

    I probably should have stopped watching as soon as i realized what the clip was and who it was meant for and you’re probably wondering why I didn’t. I did say earlier in this post that the video was amazing and indeed it was. I do not exaggerate.

    posted by Devante Swing at 12:15 PM

    Jail?

    “VERY nice to see Elizabeth “Libby” Hoeller is so prominent in the news. Her story was the one taking place in Wisconsin, and the original videos posted of her have her name, address and phone number in the beginning. What a sick ex-boyfriend, he didn’t need to do that. Good thing he ended up getting a 12-moth prison sentence out of it.

    Cheers.”

    Is this true? Did he really go to jail? Apparently not:

    as a first hand source i just wanted to let you know that libby’s boyfriend did not receive any kind of jail sentence. he also did not put her name and address on the videos. that happened later after they had been circulating for a few weeks.

    Posted by madison student – 10:38am December 5, 2001

    Here’s another take on it.

    to whom it may concern:

    i know libby hoeller’s ex-boyfriend… videos got uploaded accidentally… were in his download folder, and people uploaded it over Scour back in the day… he did not get a 12 month prison sentance… he is alive and well, attending university of indiana, highly amused by it… they broke up but maintained a sex relationship for seven more months…

    Posted by Raul Duke – 3:27pm December 24, 2001

    Somebody once wrote something about Libby in my guestbook. Saying:

    Comments: Those movies are not Libby. Some ass thought it would be funny to rename some porno movies that he had found on a now defunct web site in sweden and pass them around her campus. Needless to say it is not funny. I am sure you can figure out how horrible something like this would be for a person. If not, ask any of the girls who visit your web site what they would think if something like this happeneed to them. Please just call them some chick dancing or something instead of using a name. Someone has to start this, and I’m hoping it is you.

    Yeah okay dude. Whatever.

    Anyway, here are two e-mails from two students who’re from University of Wisconsin Madison (where the videos originated from) that pretty much prove that this all really did happen and isn’t just some hoax or myth.

    Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 17:34:44 -0600
    From: xxxxx@students.wisc.edu
    Subject: libby hoeler

    hey. i came across your site after searching google for libby hoeler, i was bored. anyway, as a student at UW madison i could tell you what i know of her and the story. her real name is elizabeth heller. she is a sophomore now but was a freshman living in university housing when it happened. she lived in sellery hall, i was living across the street in witte hall where one of her good friends lived on my floor. the story i heard from him is that she made them for her boyfriend who was at college in milwaukee. she cheated on him and he found out, and he sent them to her parents, her grandparents, all her friends whose email addresses he knew and naturally they ended up on morpheus and kazaa. i dont know much else about it, i personally dont know her other than seeing her at a few parties.

    And one more:

    Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 20:41:59 -0600
    From: xxxx@students.wisc.edu
    Subject: Libby Hoeller

    Hi,

    Yes, the story is true. Of course, we knew about it about a year and a half ago. It happened sometime at the beginning of the 00-01 school year in Sellery Hall. It was funny; we even looked her up in the student directory. She lived about 3 doors down from where I used to live, but she was long gone by the time the pictures were distributed (and everyone tried to contact her). But yes, it is true. And if I have any credibility on this subject at all, it should be from my wisc.edu email address. Heh.

    Update:

    A little update on the Libby Hoeller story. A reader of mine sent this in. I’ll let him do the talking:

    To: psykotik@gmail.com
    Subject: Libby Hoeller/Heller… whatever.
    From: “Liquid” liquid@***.net
    Date: Sun, Apr 14 2002 2:04:57 AM -0700

    Justin —

    So I’m reading your rants, and I happen to be unusually entertained by them. Ok. Not unusually. More like its the fucking status quo. Never mind that tho.

    When I read your little “synopsis” on Mrs. Hoeller/Heller/Whatever, I recalled that one of the posts mentioned that her name/address was put at the beginning of the now quite infamous strip-cams. I also remember thinking that it sounded more like web-lore than anything else. No one would possible know this sort of crap one way or another in the vast sludge known as the internet. However, I recently deleted my libby-‘stash’ by accident, and started looking for suitable replacements, when it seems that I actually ran across a version that still had the name in the opening. I enclosed a .jpg just for kicks. Not sure if you care, but what the hell. I thought it was sort of surprising, and anything I can do to further your research into the hoeller-case.

    Like I said, I thought that part of the story would HAVE to be bullshit.

    I guess not.

    Best,
    Chris

    Libby’s address.

    I guess it wouldn’t hurt to post it up here. Since i’m sure she’s not living there anymore.

    Okay. Now i’m slightly confused. Is it Hoeller? Or Heller? Because according to one of the two UWM students up there, her last name is Heller. And according to the other, she lived in Sellery Hall. But in the screenshot, it says Hoeler. Not Heller. The Sellery thing checks out though. That seems to be true. But as for her name, which is it? Hoeler or Heller?

    Does anybody know? (Does anybody even care??)

    The videos in question:

  • Libby 1
  • Libby 2
  • Libby 3
  • Libby 4
  • And that’s… all that i have on Libby Hoeler.

    University of Wisconsin Madison… wow. If only that kinda stuff happened here at Western Michigan University…

    Actually… it has.

    I have two short videos of some chick that goes to WMU fingering herself. Got em from this dude that i know from this other dorm here at Western. Click on the link for more.

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