Potee wrote:Am I the only person who noticed that Michael Moore stole his title from Ray Bradbury's book "Farenheight 451"? Am I also the only one who noticed that Moore didn't have the right to use or parody Bradbuy's title in any way? Bradbury gave an interview and said that, about a month after F 9/11 came out, he got a call from Moore. Moore was at a fucking party on the phone with one of the greatest authors of all time, whom he stole a title from, said, basically, "sorry", and hung up. (In the interview, Moore calls Bush a criminal. Last time I checked, plagarism is a crime.)
Michael Moore is an opportunist, plain and simple. Let's look at his two best-known films: Bowling for Columbine, and F 9/11. Columbine is about that rash of school shootings back in 1998-1999, which was one of the big issues of the time that everyone was worried about. Now along comes F 9/11, and holy shit, look was the movie is about and what the big debate is today. He's just taking advantage of the most popular issue today, which is the definition of opportunism. So, if he's so great at presenting issues, where are his films on AIDS in Africa, or child labor in Asia? Nowhere to be found, because those aren't front-line issues.
I thought this was interesting in F 9/11. Michael Moore says that Saddam never threatened the life of an American. But later in the film he says that one of the reasons Bush went to war with Iraq is because Saddam tried to kill his father, Bush Sr. Last time I checked, you had to be an American citizen to be President.
As to the "would you send your children..." argument, if you sign up for the military, you should know what you're getting yourself into. You sign a shitload of forms that say you are willing to die to protect the nation. No one forces you to. To join the military, you either have to be 18, when you're an adult and you're parents aren't responsible for the choices you make, YOU are, or you can join at 17 when you have PARENT'S PERMISSION. Henceforth, the "would you send your children..." argument goes straight out the window.
I just realized something. Moore says in the interview "I can think of nothing worse than lying to the nation." Perhaps some of you will know who said this: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman. Miss Lewinsky"
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I think this guy gets the douchebag of the year award.
Dude, what the fuck are you talking about?? Go suck some more Bush dick, christ, you're riding his cock pretty hard there buddy. Plagarism?? Come fucking on. Best known films? Do you think every film makers first films become classics in an instant? Do you know how many films he even has out??? As for presenting issues... Africa? Asia? Hmmmm, well, it seems to me that the issues he has dealt with in EVERY one of his films, deal with things going on in the American culture. The slant-eyes working for 5 cents an hour don't bother, nor concern me... so why would someone make a movie on it? As for the military shit, it is manipulative of young kids of course. By no doubt is it their own fault that they join it and should fight, but check out a local interview of a family who's child is killed... "we never thought he/she would actually go out and fight, we just thought it would be a good opportunity to save money for college" You hear it time and time again. I have best friends doing this and I have absolutely no sympathy for them. Unless you're a gung-ho wackjob psyched on heading off to the military instead of an insecure, futureless, no-direction young kid... then the government will take advantage of your lack of any motivation to do something actually productive.
Man, you people are rediculous, I can't even see where an arguement is. O'Reilly is a loser, there is no doubt about it. He throws tantrum arguements and hissy fits. He cuts most people off who he doesn't agree with, acting like his points are justified. It's almost pointless to even argue any of this.
KERRY/EDWARDS '04