So, I thought of starting a blog a while back. Had exelis.net registered and everything. The thing is, I'm not someone that really gives a flying fuck whether someone agrees or disagrees with me, and I really don't care to seek any excess attention, either. Seeing that all of 6 people pop in here regularly, I guess I don't run that risk by posting my thoughts.
So, let's talk about the upshot of the Virginia Tech shooting, and how it relates to the idiocy of America today. Yes, the shooter was a fricking nutjob that never should have gotten as far as he did. Yes, it was a major tragedy, and my heart goes out to those that experienced the loss of loved ones because of it. However, as one very astute BBC commentator noted (whose name I, sadly, do not remember), America will now react with an overzealous backlash against gun ownership, instead of focusing on the real problems.
Now, I'm no gun nut. I own a rifle, but I'm so obsessive over it that I let my license for it lapse years ago, and it's sitting at my Mom's house. I do enjoy target shooting with friends, both with pistol and rifle, and I do support the right of any citizen of the United States that does not have a record of violent crimes to keep and bear any type of small firearm that they so choose. This, however, isn't a real gun issue. I haven't read where this retard got his weapons, but he wasn't a citizen of the U.S., and never should have gotten any attention from a licensed dealer because of that fact. If he somehow procured weapons on the street, that is unfortunate, but it is also an unlegislatable problem that is irrelevant, similar to drugs and the sex trade (if I feel like it, I'll quite possibly discuss those issues later).
The real problem is that now the federal government has yet even more fodder in their quest to take away our individual liberties. Somehow, the Bush administration has been getting away with illegal wiretapping for years, now, and it's a back-burner debate in the congress. I don't care whether you believe it's right or wrong, it's clearly illegal according to our constitution. If you want it to happen, support the creation a FUCKING AMENDMENT or go home. Until the moment that that amendment passes congressional vote, all listening to phone calls without a warrant should stop. Period. Don't argue, because if you do, you just look like an idiot. This one's not up for debate. If it were wartime, if it was limited in scope, if there was one shred of checking and balancing, I would talk about it. There isn't at this point. We did away with heinous writs of assistance when we seceded from England. Why would we ever conjure up such arcane demons now, in an alleged "modern" society?
My wife (Yes, I'm married, even have a son, for those of you that did not know. Yes, I'm also still a horny perv) had to forego breakfast not once, but three times in order to board a plane for business the other day. Some moron at the TSA, or the DHS, or wherever, thinks that a well organized terror plot is going to occur that involves ramming airplanes into buildings again. Uh. Wrong. Al Qaida is not that stupid, sad to say. I wish they were, because it would be funny to see the news report showing the mauled bodies of 4 or 5 box-cutter wielding terrorists lugged off a plane. I'm sorry, but America is different now. If some motherfucker tries to take over a plane, the gun-toting air marshall won't have enough time to make it to them before they are officially a bruised, unconscious mass of flesh (or worse). Remember Richard (the retard) Reid, the "shoe bomber"? His sorry ass didn't get half a chance to set off his pyrotechnics, because normal citizens kicked it around the plane. Nonetheless, airline security is making people wait in huge lines to make sure that they have no food before they get into the airport. People were getting their granola bars confiscated at such an alarming rate that my wife, who succumbed to the rules, didn't even have time to stop at a post-security restaurant to pay for an overpriced breakfast burrito at her origin nor at her layover. At this rate, it's a money grab by airlines that are all too happy to sell food and beverages to their passengers that are stuck in all too cramped seats. Of course, who could blame them, since Al Qaida won, and made a nation of cowards out of us. Less people fly, so the airlines have to make up for it somewhere.
I love this country. Many men and women, for more than 200 years have spilled blood and given their lives to ensure our freedoms. Why do we so eagerly turn a blind eye as those freedoms are taken away from us, and pissed upon by the cowardly and those seeking to further their own interests?
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Jeepers.
I hardly know where to start. That's a mouthful.
First off, I own my own gun, thanks to my bf the SWAT cop who decided that I needed to be able to defend myself should the need ever arise. That and the fact that I think he prolly thinks girls with guns are hawt. I like shooting my Beretta, and I like knowing that if someone bent on malice to my lil body somehow gains entry into my residence, that I could put two or three center mass and call 911 to come clean up the mess.
Secondly, I'm of Korean heritage, but a red-white-and-blue All-American girl due to the fact that I was born in the Southeast US after my parents moved here from South Korea. I really don't understand all the apologizing by South Koreans over this regrettable incident. It's not as though they are in any way responsible for the actions of one total nutbar who was born on their soil.
This brings me to the topic of what exelis termed "the real problems" in America. As they relate to the shootings at VT, there is nothing that could have been done in this country to foresee or prevent what took place. There will always be those who feel so marginalized and angry that they act out their personal frustrations in a display of naked violence. This guy obtained his weapons from a licensed dealer in Virginia in accordance with that state's laws. How could anyone have foreseen what he would use his purchases for? Why would anyone think that it makes sense to punish the MILLIONS of law-abiding citizens who own guns for the actions of one deranged individual? There are those who claim, "well it's just TOO EASY to get guns." Yeah, well it's also pretty easy to get a license to drive a machine that typically weighs close to 2 tons that is responsible for around 40,000 deaths a year in this country, and FAR more people own and operate automobiles than firearms. Should we regulate driving more strictly, like our European friends, in much the same way they regulate gun ownership? Also, does anyone truly believe that even if every citizen immediately complied with a law that banned private ownership of firearms, that criminals around the country would likewise show up at their local police station to turn over their weapons? I didn't think so.
Well, I'll stop there for now...more to come as it pops in my head.
I hardly know where to start. That's a mouthful.
First off, I own my own gun, thanks to my bf the SWAT cop who decided that I needed to be able to defend myself should the need ever arise. That and the fact that I think he prolly thinks girls with guns are hawt. I like shooting my Beretta, and I like knowing that if someone bent on malice to my lil body somehow gains entry into my residence, that I could put two or three center mass and call 911 to come clean up the mess.
Secondly, I'm of Korean heritage, but a red-white-and-blue All-American girl due to the fact that I was born in the Southeast US after my parents moved here from South Korea. I really don't understand all the apologizing by South Koreans over this regrettable incident. It's not as though they are in any way responsible for the actions of one total nutbar who was born on their soil.
This brings me to the topic of what exelis termed "the real problems" in America. As they relate to the shootings at VT, there is nothing that could have been done in this country to foresee or prevent what took place. There will always be those who feel so marginalized and angry that they act out their personal frustrations in a display of naked violence. This guy obtained his weapons from a licensed dealer in Virginia in accordance with that state's laws. How could anyone have foreseen what he would use his purchases for? Why would anyone think that it makes sense to punish the MILLIONS of law-abiding citizens who own guns for the actions of one deranged individual? There are those who claim, "well it's just TOO EASY to get guns." Yeah, well it's also pretty easy to get a license to drive a machine that typically weighs close to 2 tons that is responsible for around 40,000 deaths a year in this country, and FAR more people own and operate automobiles than firearms. Should we regulate driving more strictly, like our European friends, in much the same way they regulate gun ownership? Also, does anyone truly believe that even if every citizen immediately complied with a law that banned private ownership of firearms, that criminals around the country would likewise show up at their local police station to turn over their weapons? I didn't think so.
Well, I'll stop there for now...more to come as it pops in my head.
^^ Actually yes in regards to drivers licensing.
From what I've heard of the US driving laws it is far too easy for someone to get their licence and you practically have your licence handed to you on a plate compared to here cost-wise and testing-wise.
Changing back to gun ownership and regulating, how easy is it to actually get a gun there?
I'd find it hard to get hold of a gun because I don't know anyone I could "borrow" one off and have no idea where I'd be able to obtain one illegally.
How stringent are the licensing laws and do you need to be tested psychologically before you can obtain a gun and licence or is it just sign some papers and you can now own a gun or three?
That and do all states in the US have the same laws in regards to gun ownership or does the laws fluctuate wildly between states?
I do believe guns in America do need more regulation on what types people can obtain without good reason.
I need to read up some more on this topic, I don't know enough about it at this point other than to say that I find it strange that every man and his dog thinks he has a right to bear arms in the US.
From what I've heard of the US driving laws it is far too easy for someone to get their licence and you practically have your licence handed to you on a plate compared to here cost-wise and testing-wise.
Changing back to gun ownership and regulating, how easy is it to actually get a gun there?
I'd find it hard to get hold of a gun because I don't know anyone I could "borrow" one off and have no idea where I'd be able to obtain one illegally.
How stringent are the licensing laws and do you need to be tested psychologically before you can obtain a gun and licence or is it just sign some papers and you can now own a gun or three?
That and do all states in the US have the same laws in regards to gun ownership or does the laws fluctuate wildly between states?
I do believe guns in America do need more regulation on what types people can obtain without good reason.
I need to read up some more on this topic, I don't know enough about it at this point other than to say that I find it strange that every man and his dog thinks he has a right to bear arms in the US.
I know I'm supposed to do something, but fuck knows what it is.
Australian Prime Minister John Howard frequently refers to the USA to explain his opposition to civilian firearms ownership and use in Australia. In one interview he said, "We will find any means we can to further restrict them because I hate guns... ordinary citizens should not have weapons. We do not want the American disease imported into Australia." In a television interview shortly before the tenth anniversary of the Port Arthur massacre, he reaffirmed his stance: "I did not want Australia to go down the American path. There are some things about America I admire and there are some things I don't. And one of the things I don't admire about America is their... slavish love of guns. They're evil."
What a douche.
That's an idiotic statement. Guns by themselves are not evil.
Question: Does the prime minister of Australia have a Secret Service-type agency charged with his protection? I wonder if they carry swords to defend his life? Because we wouldn't want them to be in possession of evil.
And god forbid the Almighty PM allow his countrymen to catch America's "disease"...which we here in the USA quaintly refer to as "freedom." I mean, you certainly wouldn't want your government to treat its citizenry as though the majority were responsible adults. Heavens no...nanny-state ftw.
Information about US gun laws, which vary by state, can be found on Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in ... ted_States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_i ... y_state%29
What a douche.
That's an idiotic statement. Guns by themselves are not evil.
Question: Does the prime minister of Australia have a Secret Service-type agency charged with his protection? I wonder if they carry swords to defend his life? Because we wouldn't want them to be in possession of evil.
And god forbid the Almighty PM allow his countrymen to catch America's "disease"...which we here in the USA quaintly refer to as "freedom." I mean, you certainly wouldn't want your government to treat its citizenry as though the majority were responsible adults. Heavens no...nanny-state ftw.
Information about US gun laws, which vary by state, can be found on Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in ... ted_States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_i ... y_state%29
First off, a word on my probable biases: I don't like guns, and don't want one.
I shot one once and was jumping at sudden noises for the rest of the week.
My dad on the other hand has 12 guns, only 3 of them pistols, and none of them small. He doesn't shoot them, though. I think he's starting a rust farm.
Anyways,
There will probably always be talk of anti-gun legislation after a shooting, because when you're someone elected people expect you to be doing something after a bad thing, so you have to look it, even if you think it's stupid.
I think talking about gun control is pretty harmless diversion. At this point I think they'd only be talking about more red tape in the acquisition process, as opposed to taking them away since from our cold, dead hands.
I'm not paying attention to the news, so if I'm wrong on that point the rest of this post is pretty pointless. Just trying to save you some time.
I'm pretty nonchalant about gun control, because as someone with a clean record I think the biggest problem I'd have getting one is finding the gun store and making sure I had a pen for the paperwork.
They sell the damn things in Walmart, and while I'm wildly stereotyping if the person who works the counter where the guns are is interchangable with other cashiers in the store the screening process can't be that intense. Is making it more intense actually punishment?
I don't see a scenario where someone who could have gotten a gun before couldn't after. Unless the powers that be really think we're stupid.
On the other hand:
I don't think there's enough anti-bomb legislation. I hear about bombs all the time and I think the right to have bombs should definately be restricted. We are all the time hearing about bombings, but in almost every case if the bomber hadn't had a bomb then he couldn't have bombed anything.
I think only the military and the police should be allowed to have bombs.
...
Anyways, what else could the politicians be doing? Anti-Green Card legislation?
Of course they could be advocating better security and emergency response plans for various institutions, but there's only so much planning you can do for crazy people. Their goals are often different from ours.
Plus response scenarios aren't sexy. Senators and Representatives have their jobs to think about.
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Speaking of driver's licenses, the test I took for my learner's involved four right turns and a stop sign. If I had parked nose out in the parking space to begin with I wouldn't have even needed to reverse.
I got a perfect score.
I shot one once and was jumping at sudden noises for the rest of the week.
My dad on the other hand has 12 guns, only 3 of them pistols, and none of them small. He doesn't shoot them, though. I think he's starting a rust farm.
Anyways,
There will probably always be talk of anti-gun legislation after a shooting, because when you're someone elected people expect you to be doing something after a bad thing, so you have to look it, even if you think it's stupid.
I think talking about gun control is pretty harmless diversion. At this point I think they'd only be talking about more red tape in the acquisition process, as opposed to taking them away since from our cold, dead hands.
I'm not paying attention to the news, so if I'm wrong on that point the rest of this post is pretty pointless. Just trying to save you some time.
I'm pretty nonchalant about gun control, because as someone with a clean record I think the biggest problem I'd have getting one is finding the gun store and making sure I had a pen for the paperwork.
They sell the damn things in Walmart, and while I'm wildly stereotyping if the person who works the counter where the guns are is interchangable with other cashiers in the store the screening process can't be that intense. Is making it more intense actually punishment?
I don't see a scenario where someone who could have gotten a gun before couldn't after. Unless the powers that be really think we're stupid.
On the other hand:
I don't think there's enough anti-bomb legislation. I hear about bombs all the time and I think the right to have bombs should definately be restricted. We are all the time hearing about bombings, but in almost every case if the bomber hadn't had a bomb then he couldn't have bombed anything.
I think only the military and the police should be allowed to have bombs.
...
Anyways, what else could the politicians be doing? Anti-Green Card legislation?
Of course they could be advocating better security and emergency response plans for various institutions, but there's only so much planning you can do for crazy people. Their goals are often different from ours.
Plus response scenarios aren't sexy. Senators and Representatives have their jobs to think about.
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Speaking of driver's licenses, the test I took for my learner's involved four right turns and a stop sign. If I had parked nose out in the parking space to begin with I wouldn't have even needed to reverse.
I got a perfect score.
Of course, whatever the real topic may or may not be doesn't matter when it comes down to the battles on capitol hill. What's at issue really becomes leveraging, power, money, etc.
That being said, I'm a gun owner, and an avid hunter. This incident really has nothing to do with gun laws and rights, and it shouldn't be spun that way. However, the NRA was the first one to act, while the incident was still ongoing, their drones were already buzzing the circles in Washington and angling up for the defensive...
...Which pisses me off. It's not about that. They should have been standing BEHIND Congress and arguing for tougher enforcement of the existing laws and finding ways to prevent crimes of passion like this from happening. Instead they basically point the target on themselves each and everytime.
As for Angelbaby's comment about nothing we could have done to prevent this. No not really. But I was encouraged to see that the post-Columbine shift in our country regarding our attitudes on 'bullying'.
Which makes me wonder. Is this still the same generation experiencing this? Columbine was 99? right? 97? So ten years ago...all those kids should have been brought up with that horror in the back of their mind.
That being said, I'm a gun owner, and an avid hunter. This incident really has nothing to do with gun laws and rights, and it shouldn't be spun that way. However, the NRA was the first one to act, while the incident was still ongoing, their drones were already buzzing the circles in Washington and angling up for the defensive...
...Which pisses me off. It's not about that. They should have been standing BEHIND Congress and arguing for tougher enforcement of the existing laws and finding ways to prevent crimes of passion like this from happening. Instead they basically point the target on themselves each and everytime.
As for Angelbaby's comment about nothing we could have done to prevent this. No not really. But I was encouraged to see that the post-Columbine shift in our country regarding our attitudes on 'bullying'.
Which makes me wonder. Is this still the same generation experiencing this? Columbine was 99? right? 97? So ten years ago...all those kids should have been brought up with that horror in the back of their mind.
According to stats I've seen today there were less than 100 gun deaths in the UK and Wales last year.
In 2003 alone, 30,136 Americans died by gunfire.
But naturally that has absolutely nothing to do with the availability of guns in America , as Bill Hicks said you'd be a fool and a communist to suggest that.
In 2003 alone, 30,136 Americans died by gunfire.
But naturally that has absolutely nothing to do with the availability of guns in America , as Bill Hicks said you'd be a fool and a communist to suggest that.
Although I was delighted to login and see responses to my thread (finally), I have to admit that I'm disheartened to see it quickly becoming a gun control debate, which is not what I was talking about at all.
And yes, my first post was a mouthful. Sorry 'bout that. Can't get some things across without actually talking about them, though.
And yes, my first post was a mouthful. Sorry 'bout that. Can't get some things across without actually talking about them, though.
It is very strange just who got defensive after the shooting.
It's possible there was some negligence on the part of those in charge at VT, and that's on the news, but I'm hearing more about anti-gun control and worries about possible backlashes against people of asian descent.
What the fuck? I am full-on puzzled.
That last wouldn't have even entered my mind if there hadn't been a big to-do about it. Honestly, I made more out of the fact he was an English major.
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I guess I'm not very worried about a design to cull our rights in America because I don't understand how the perpetrators would benefit from it.
It sounds like a lot of work, but for what? What's the reward for making the U.S. a police state?
I'm not saying the powers that be have our best intersts at heart in all that they do, but they do have their own, and since we are all similar in some respects everyone's interest must coincide on a lot of things. So, what do they get by screwing everyone over the worst they can?
If someone wants money, they can probably get it without taking over the nation.
If they want power then...what? Power to do what? What horrible restrictions are there to chafe against that your only option is to inhibit the rights of others? I never understand it when people say someone wants power. That's a physics term, Power to what? My power is over 9,000? There's a lack of defining there that has always struck me as wrong.
If you say you want women, plural, then really you probably just want vaginas. I'm sure there are many women who are just vaginas, if you're motivated it can't be that hard.
I just have trouble imagining it, to me the govermental conspiracy is either not true or so horrendous and byzantine it's incomprehensible. I'm thinking the real problem is that there's a bunch of men in a room and they don't like their gray hair and when they're in committee they go around the table one-upping each other with their X-tremeness because if you're radical it means you must have a reason for being radical so you must have better intel or reasoing and your cock is bigger.
Basically, Congress needs more windows. Sunlight shining through as opposed to staring at each other in a room that holds in self-importance like old farts. Mandatory outside walks for fresh air. Grass and roses and shit. Wind through your hair, what's left of it.
Unless there's something that just has to eat human beings to be happy I don't know what the motivation would be for making us all slaves to whims.
Of course, facist dictatorships do happen, so it's very possible this is just something beyond my ken. I'm a very peacenik/dove type person. I'd be a vegetarian if I didn't eat so much meat.
It's possible there was some negligence on the part of those in charge at VT, and that's on the news, but I'm hearing more about anti-gun control and worries about possible backlashes against people of asian descent.
What the fuck? I am full-on puzzled.
That last wouldn't have even entered my mind if there hadn't been a big to-do about it. Honestly, I made more out of the fact he was an English major.
EDIT:
I guess I'm not very worried about a design to cull our rights in America because I don't understand how the perpetrators would benefit from it.
It sounds like a lot of work, but for what? What's the reward for making the U.S. a police state?
I'm not saying the powers that be have our best intersts at heart in all that they do, but they do have their own, and since we are all similar in some respects everyone's interest must coincide on a lot of things. So, what do they get by screwing everyone over the worst they can?
If someone wants money, they can probably get it without taking over the nation.
If they want power then...what? Power to do what? What horrible restrictions are there to chafe against that your only option is to inhibit the rights of others? I never understand it when people say someone wants power. That's a physics term, Power to what? My power is over 9,000? There's a lack of defining there that has always struck me as wrong.
If you say you want women, plural, then really you probably just want vaginas. I'm sure there are many women who are just vaginas, if you're motivated it can't be that hard.
I just have trouble imagining it, to me the govermental conspiracy is either not true or so horrendous and byzantine it's incomprehensible. I'm thinking the real problem is that there's a bunch of men in a room and they don't like their gray hair and when they're in committee they go around the table one-upping each other with their X-tremeness because if you're radical it means you must have a reason for being radical so you must have better intel or reasoing and your cock is bigger.
Basically, Congress needs more windows. Sunlight shining through as opposed to staring at each other in a room that holds in self-importance like old farts. Mandatory outside walks for fresh air. Grass and roses and shit. Wind through your hair, what's left of it.
Unless there's something that just has to eat human beings to be happy I don't know what the motivation would be for making us all slaves to whims.
Of course, facist dictatorships do happen, so it's very possible this is just something beyond my ken. I'm a very peacenik/dove type person. I'd be a vegetarian if I didn't eat so much meat.
I think it's wonderful that we're seeing an ethnographic spread in the whole area of "crazed loner mass murdering school massacre" - no longer are disenfranchised, ugly, lonely white kids being demonised as potential campus killers, it's the azn's too!
Now if only some of the stabbed and shot kids in London could NOT be black, plus maybe a few non-Muzzie beardy rolling-eyed loons with backpack bombs. Maybe a couple of tube-bombing Jews?
We need to break down the barriers of race and religion when it comes to insane acts of killing.
Now if only some of the stabbed and shot kids in London could NOT be black, plus maybe a few non-Muzzie beardy rolling-eyed loons with backpack bombs. Maybe a couple of tube-bombing Jews?
We need to break down the barriers of race and religion when it comes to insane acts of killing.
Gulliver, I'll sound like an NRA shill, although I'm asking legitimately,
A ) what are the population differences between to the US and the UK
B ) what are the other stats versus other forms of murder in both countries?
That's the problem with statistics, you can reinterpret and reinvent them anyway you want.
Dex once said 70% of all stats on the internet are made up.
A ) what are the population differences between to the US and the UK
B ) what are the other stats versus other forms of murder in both countries?
That's the problem with statistics, you can reinterpret and reinvent them anyway you want.
Dex once said 70% of all stats on the internet are made up.
Ok I cant really argue with that. Stats are/can be misleading and god knows how many of those deaths in the stat I posted were accidental. I realise its part of your constitution and understand it makes you sleep better at night to have a gun in your posession for self defence purposes, but the cold reality is that the function of a gun is for killing people or seriously injuring them. I just feel there is far too much leeway on the widespread availability of a fire-arm in America as a whole and not just in one particular state with individual laws, which lets nutjobs like cho abuse and perverse the sytem.smash wrote:Gulliver, I'll sound like an NRA shill, although I'm asking legitimately,
A ) what are the population differences between to the US and the UK
B ) what are the other stats versus other forms of murder in both countries?
That's the problem with statistics, you can reinterpret and reinvent them anyway you want.
Dex once said 70% of all stats on the internet are made up.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. "
That doesn't mean everyone should have the right to own a gun and blow the shit out of anything and anybody they like.
Agreed. I think that there should be training and testing (like a drivers license) to own a gun. People should have the right to have those things, provided that they have confirmed 'intelligence' and 'background check' to qualify. In the case of this idiot in VT he somehow got past the system. And that needs to be rooted out and prosecuted. We don't need additional laws, merely enforcement.gulliver wrote:Ok I cant really argue with that. Stats are/can be misleading and god knows how many of those deaths in the stat I posted were accidental. I realise its part of your constitution and understand it makes you sleep better at night to have a gun in your posession for self defence purposes, but the cold reality is that the function of a gun is for killing people or seriously injuring them. I just feel there is far too much leeway on the widespread availability of a fire-arm in America as a whole and not just in one particular state with individual laws, which lets nutjobs like cho abuse and perverse the sytem.smash wrote:Gulliver, I'll sound like an NRA shill, although I'm asking legitimately,
A ) what are the population differences between to the US and the UK
B ) what are the other stats versus other forms of murder in both countries?
That's the problem with statistics, you can reinterpret and reinvent them anyway you want.
Dex once said 70% of all stats on the internet are made up.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. "
That doesn't mean everyone should have the right to own a gun and blow the shit out of anything and anybody they like.
I also keep mine unloaded and locked in a gun case in my basement. It would require me to go past a burglar down the stairs (with my keys) unlock the case and load the gun in order for it to be used as a home defense.
I own a gun because its cool. And cuz I hunt.
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America has more murders but London England actually has a higher crime rate than NYC, LA, and Chicago combined. It's also climbed much more in recent years. Along with sales of Burberry hats and gold plated chunk necklaces.
Here's how I see gun control: I am almost full time in Toronto right now. We have extremely strict gun ownership laws here especially on hand guns. If you want to own one you need to jump through hoops of fire and can only have it locked in a box until you're either in your home or on a range. Other than that it needs to be locked and in the trunk of your car. You also have a time limit to get from your home to the range and they give you a map of the fastest root between when you register for your gun. Pretty safe huh?
For 200 bucks I can buy a pistol with the little identifying number filed off. I'm not some big hard ass criminal, but I can still get one. A couple years ago they busted a factory here who were making guns and shipping them to the states. IMO when you make more laws you just make more criminals.
The only time I ever see anything require more government involvement is when they can tax something or require taxing to fund something.
You can't control the human element in the equation. Same reason making drugs illegal amounts to fuck all other than a well funded militant police force. SOOOO many people have their own grand private brain'splosion about how much money could be made if weed was legalized and taxed. That money would be about 1/5th of what is made by over taxing people and justifying it with the "war on drugs".
That Korean idiot just had one too many screws loose. He had an imaginary supermodel girlfriend. He was a social retard. What amazes me is how every Korean person jumped on this so fast like it was a private attack on them. I think it's social outcasts and the mentally ill who are going to get ass fucked over this. Racial sensitivity is just much trendier. Yeah they pointed out he was Korean. So? Calm the fuck down. If some inbred takes that to mean he can be racist well he wasn't very far off from being racist to begin with. Margaret Cho (Choe?) was on this like a fat guy on fudge talking about the good old racist media. STFU. If a white guy blasted a bunch of Korean kids in Korea I'm pretty sure they'd point out not only his race but where he was from, his eye colour, blood type, and every other detail possible. Yeah America is a big melting pot...so? That doesn't mean facts should be omitted just for some people's personal comfort level. Plus blame the man himself, he sent out tonnes of tapes talking about how much he hated white people and rich Christians. That's just food for the beast right there. Only an extremely stupid person would alter their thinking on race relations and equality over something so random. Those types of people aren't worth paying attention to anyway.
btw: They made it harder to get drivers licenses up here about 15 years ago now and all it's done is become an extra revenue stream. No less accidents at all. I mean who drives casually the same way they do during a test?
Here's how I see gun control: I am almost full time in Toronto right now. We have extremely strict gun ownership laws here especially on hand guns. If you want to own one you need to jump through hoops of fire and can only have it locked in a box until you're either in your home or on a range. Other than that it needs to be locked and in the trunk of your car. You also have a time limit to get from your home to the range and they give you a map of the fastest root between when you register for your gun. Pretty safe huh?
For 200 bucks I can buy a pistol with the little identifying number filed off. I'm not some big hard ass criminal, but I can still get one. A couple years ago they busted a factory here who were making guns and shipping them to the states. IMO when you make more laws you just make more criminals.
The only time I ever see anything require more government involvement is when they can tax something or require taxing to fund something.
You can't control the human element in the equation. Same reason making drugs illegal amounts to fuck all other than a well funded militant police force. SOOOO many people have their own grand private brain'splosion about how much money could be made if weed was legalized and taxed. That money would be about 1/5th of what is made by over taxing people and justifying it with the "war on drugs".
That Korean idiot just had one too many screws loose. He had an imaginary supermodel girlfriend. He was a social retard. What amazes me is how every Korean person jumped on this so fast like it was a private attack on them. I think it's social outcasts and the mentally ill who are going to get ass fucked over this. Racial sensitivity is just much trendier. Yeah they pointed out he was Korean. So? Calm the fuck down. If some inbred takes that to mean he can be racist well he wasn't very far off from being racist to begin with. Margaret Cho (Choe?) was on this like a fat guy on fudge talking about the good old racist media. STFU. If a white guy blasted a bunch of Korean kids in Korea I'm pretty sure they'd point out not only his race but where he was from, his eye colour, blood type, and every other detail possible. Yeah America is a big melting pot...so? That doesn't mean facts should be omitted just for some people's personal comfort level. Plus blame the man himself, he sent out tonnes of tapes talking about how much he hated white people and rich Christians. That's just food for the beast right there. Only an extremely stupid person would alter their thinking on race relations and equality over something so random. Those types of people aren't worth paying attention to anyway.
btw: They made it harder to get drivers licenses up here about 15 years ago now and all it's done is become an extra revenue stream. No less accidents at all. I mean who drives casually the same way they do during a test?
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