They sure do have a knack for bombing on nicely numbered dates. So far 33 have been found dead. =(
Angelbaby2003: 7/7/05
Angelbaby2003: wonder if that has some meaning
psykotik2k: at least its not 7/11
Angelbaby2003: yikes
Angelbaby2003: scary thought
Angelbaby2003: madrid was 3/11 right?
psykotik2k: dunnos
Angelbaby2003: i think yes
Angelbaby2003: if this had been 7/11 id stay home on all 11s from now on
it’s almost starting to be routine all these terrorist actions… I wonder when they start bombing my country…
#1 | Comment by WP_LeGeNd — July 7, 2005 @ 11:30 pm
terrorist actions have been routine in London for a long time. The UK was been bombed repeatedly by the IRA for thirty years. It was only few years ago that they started putting trash cans back in public buildings.
#2 | Comment by DisconcertedGeorge — July 7, 2005 @ 11:36 pm
I don’t know about you guys. Love or hate Bush, I could take him or leave him myself. But I will say one thing, I’m not voting for a Democrat next election. Those idiots want to butt-fuck and sing Kumba Ya while eating pudding around a campfire with terrorist. I say if they want to serve Allah so bad, lets arrange the meeting.
#3 | Comment by Fandango — July 8, 2005 @ 12:14 am
If it were 7/11, I’d ask them where my goddamn slurpee was.
#4 | Comment by michler — July 8, 2005 @ 12:24 am
Of course it wasnt 7/11, the terrorists are Muslims, not Hindus.
#5 | Comment by Wulf — July 8, 2005 @ 1:41 am
that actually made me chuckle.
thank you come again.
#6 | Comment by Justin — July 8, 2005 @ 1:44 am
fucking Apu the terrorist.
#7 | Comment by parlayplyr — July 8, 2005 @ 1:54 am
“Posted by Justin at >11:07
#8 | Comment by jaka — July 8, 2005 @ 2:14 am
that was purely unintentional!
good eye though.
#9 | Comment by Justin — July 8, 2005 @ 2:17 am
Terrorists only attack on days ending in y.
#10 | Comment by Seriously — July 8, 2005 @ 3:22 am
fandango,
the scary thing to me is most Americans think the same way you do.
#11 | Comment by brend0n — July 8, 2005 @ 4:52 am
brend0n,
No, only the loud and stupid ones.
#12 | Comment by al k holik — July 8, 2005 @ 5:01 am
al k holik,
No, only the smart ones.
#13 | Comment by AngelBaby — July 8, 2005 @ 6:11 am
AngelBaby, you can’t kill all the terrorists. You can’t find them all. You can’t stop them all. Conventional war won’t do it. You can’t conquer them.
We went to war in Iraq to “stop terrorism” (after the WMD excuse failed) and did it cut down on terrorism? Nope, just rallied the terrorists and gave them a fresh breeding ground. Great. “Introduce them to Allah” is a brilliant plan.
#14 | Comment by Nerima — July 8, 2005 @ 7:37 am
Works for me…
Besides, what’s YOUR brilliant plan? Sit back and just let them kill people they hate unopposed? I’ll direct them to your house first and we’ll see what you think then.
#15 | Comment by AngelBaby — July 8, 2005 @ 8:11 am
Oh yeah, and one more thing…
Can we find all the rabid animals in the wilderness around us? No way. But what do we do when one strays into our neighborhood and bites someone? We kill it…simple as that. Because there is NO OTHER WAY.
#16 | Comment by AngelBaby — July 8, 2005 @ 8:15 am
nermia,
That’s a rather uneducated statement on your behalf about ‘rallying terrorists and giving them a fresh breeding ground’.
How much studying on the subject have you done? I admit, I haven’t done much at all (read about 5 books on it and read any news/magazine article on terrorism I can get) but I bet I’ve done more than you.
There’s several things wrong with what you are saying.
#1 – look at the numbers, our ‘war on terror’ HAS cut down on their ability to strike. The only difference between then and now is that you, and most americans, didn’t give a fuck about world events until it smacked us in the face. Terrorism activities ARE DOWN.
#2 – We’ve massively cut their funding and seized their monies to use back at them. It’s alarming how much money was wittingly or unwittingly supplied to terrorist related organizations. This probably more than anything has hurt their efforts.
#3 – Iraq created a HUGE difference for OUR terroristic threat. But you are too stupid to see it. It’s basic strategy. It’s called going on the offense. I’ll point it out for you. We’ve given them a target to go for…ON FOREIGN LAND. There haven’t been any American soil terrorist attacks since we brought the fight to them.
That being said, do I agree with some of the ulterior motives and realpolitik? Absolutely not. However, pulling a ‘Spain’ hasn’t seemed to stop terrorism either, has it?
#17 | Comment by smash — July 8, 2005 @ 8:26 am
06/06/06 would be a much nicer date
#18 | Comment by zecchino — July 8, 2005 @ 9:21 am
I like it better when we are talking about tittays and video games and stuff like that.
: (
#19 | Comment by EndlessMike — July 8, 2005 @ 9:42 am
#17,
But you forget the great peace and prosperity we had under Uncle Bubba in the 1990s! Your senility is setting in.
You see, W, being the rich fat cat, is helping all his rich friends. That’s why you saw all the tycoons like Dennis Kozlowski and the Fastows and Jeffrey Skilling and the Adelphia CEO and the ImClone CEO and the WorldCom execs being led away on Clinton’s watch. While on W’s watch they got rich on false schemes resulting in the dot-com bubble.
Oops.
I got that backwards.
Nevermind – pay no attention to the facts, please.
Oh, yeah! And how about how W inherited a growing economy and now it’s in a recession? While Clinton inherited a recession and left our economy growing?
Oops.
I got that wrong, too.
Well, let me go for a third argument: terror! At least we didn’t have any terror attacks while Clinton was bravely fighting for our nation! Clinton saved millions of Allah-loving Muslims in the Balkans from being massacred by their evil Christian neighbors. Oh? The massacres in Kosovo didn’t happen like that? But we saved Haiti! Oh, it’s in shambles again? And Somalia, wasn’t that a success?
And forget the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993.
Oh, and that little thing called “Oklahoma City” in 1995? That doesn’t count – it was a domestic terrorist.
And the Olympic Park bombing was domestic, too, so don’t count it either.
And the Khobar Towers bombing? That was overseas, so please don’t mention that.
And lump the Embassies that were bombed in Africa in 1998 into the “doesn’t count” category.
And the U.S.S. Cole, too. You see, it was against a military target, so “technically” it wasn’t an act of terrorism. It all depends on what the definition of “is” is.
And forget Clinton giving North Korea a light-water nuclear reactor in ’94 with just about zero oversight and verification, resulting in them getting the bomb by sneakily harvesting their old reactor cores. (Psst. Let’s not mention those pesky Taepo-dong missiles nor selling China missile technology. Keke? Good).
Or Pakistan developing nukes in 1998. Because if you mentioned that, then you’d probably mention the A.Q. Khan network being dismantled under W’s watch while Pakistan is a quasi-ally of our’s right now.
And for God’s sake (did I say God on the Internet? Holy shit!) – don’t mention Libya, a former state-sponsor of terrorism, giving up the ghost while Bush was at the wheel.
Next thing you know, you’ll tell me that Iran is developing the bomb and Georgie-porgie has dreamt up some hare-brained scheme whereby he was able to mobilize a couple-hundred-thousand battle-hardened troops on two of Iran’s borders. And we both know that couldn’t happen…
#20 | Comment by Golden Palace — July 8, 2005 @ 10:38 am
Angelbaby,
Find all the rabid animals in the wilderness? That’s a pretty false analogy if you ask me.
As for your faulty logic, I am pleased to see that you don’t share the same type as W, who promised to “smoke all them rabid animals out of the wilderness”… wait, it was “smoke the terrorists out of their holes”.
Smash,
Give them a target on foreign land? That makes me feel real good for our peers, the soliders. Let’s sacrifice thousands of troops, and tens of thousands of civilians so the terrorists have a target that isn’t America. It really isn’t too comforting to me, but if that is how some people justify the war now and allows them sleep at night, I am not going to play thought police.
Golden Palace,
huh?
Nerima,
I agree with you on the terrorists’ rallying point. I think America has become too arrogant in spreading its belief that democracy is best for everyone. I think we have become to arrogant in thinking that our actions outside the world are going to be limited to the effects that Smash illustrated. I think there is a generation of people who are growing up resenting America, and I have a hard time forseeing benefits of our actions in the future. How often have military regime changes worked? Panama (after the assasination of Torrijos, and the American replacement of the American replacement(Noreaga)? I can’t think of many others, and if someone is happy to point them out. (and for those who do point them out, take some time to see how much IMF debt each of those Countries have)I think the best work from within, i.e., the American revolution, the Bolshevik revolution. Maybe the United States shouldn’t have bailed on the Kurds after the first Gulf War.
Sorry about the rant. I also think that this attack will do nothing but galvanize the world community against terrorism, b/c many of the world leaders are together at the G-8 summit. (The Africans always get shafted, their political and economic infrastructure can be saved for a different rant.)
Justin,
Thanks for the site.
Endless Mike,
I miss the tittays too. The Brit tits weren’t too bad though, if you are into preggos.
#21 | Comment by brend0n — July 8, 2005 @ 1:41 pm
Hey brend0n? Why don’t you explain how my analogy was “false” or my logic “faulty”? Oh, you can’t?? Didn’t think so… Just another typically arrogant lib who thinks they know everything about everything, whose only rebuttal in a debate is to shout “you’re wrong!”
You asked for more examples other than Panama where military regime change has worked. Um, would the changes we brought about in Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan ring any bells for you?? And ask some North Koreans if they don’t wish they could live in the half of their formerly united nation that we helped save. If they aren’t too busy starving, maybe you’ll get an answer.
And the poor, pitiful Africans seem to do a fine job of shafting themselves and one another, thank you very much. My sympathy for them ran out with the Somalia debacle.
Congrats are due you though, as you appear to be well on your way to becoming yet another bleeding-heart ivory tower dweller… AMERICA BAD! Right??
#22 | Comment by AngelBaby — July 8, 2005 @ 2:35 pm
AngelBaby,
http://www.datanation.com/fallacies/falsean.htm, or http://www.fallacyfiles.org/wanalogy.html
this is what a false analogy is. this is what you did. It’s nothing personal, its not an attack on you, so chill.
I never said America was bad. I questioned the effectiveness and impact of our foreign policy. Should I just blindly follow the masses?
What’s especially fucked up is this: About 8 years ago if you disagreed with a liberal, they called you names to augment their argument. Now, if you disagree with a conservative, they call you “another bleeding-heart ivory tower dweller” instead of having a discussion on the issues.
#23 | Comment by brend0n — July 8, 2005 @ 11:00 pm
brend0n,
You must like Campfires and Pudding. You know what that means.
#24 | Comment by Fandango — July 9, 2005 @ 12:18 am
AngelBaby,
I’m glad to see that there are still people like you and me.
#25 | Comment by Fandango — July 9, 2005 @ 12:20 am
#25, if there weren’t still “people like you”, how do you suppose Bush would have gotten re-elected?
#26 | Comment by EndlessMike — July 9, 2005 @ 12:43 am
Fandango,
Why don’t you just explain it?
#27 | Comment by brend0n — July 9, 2005 @ 1:06 am
AngelBaby,
I am hardly a “Lib”, and I dont think I shouted “You are wrong”.
How much debt does Japan have to the IMF? Just curious. As for Germany, you are right, thanks for pointing that one out.
#28 | Comment by brend0n — July 9, 2005 @ 1:09 am
Really, the only times when regime change actually worked out for the better is in Germany, Japan, and Korea. Revolutions? Probably just France. Russia and China are debatable, because it took them so damn long to become competitive (Russia is still a shithole by any modern standards). I don’t think these two types of regime change has ever worked in the past 100 or 200 years. Think South Asia and South America during the Cold War. Yup, we did a lot of good there…… (sarcasm meter going through the roof)
Stopping terrorism will be a very slow process. It works the same way as helping Africa. The root of the problem is that the people are poor and desperate, and some of the desperate are fucking nuts. We have to improve their economy, and build their infrastructure. Give them free and fair trade, not aid money. Make them prosper without thinking that their way of life is being trampled on. Then, you can win the hearts of the common people and the fanatics will eventually die out on their own.
#29 | Comment by Bill — July 9, 2005 @ 3:07 am
#23, 28, 29 – I see they serve pie-in-the-sky up in those ivory towers. Those of us who actually live in the real world don’t get to eat it, but I’ve always wondered how it tastes…
Probably a lot like pudding.
And FYI…just because you either disagree with or don’t understand an analogy doesn’t make it false, it just makes you sound pretentious when you try to explain the term to someone who already knows what it means. Have a grown-up explain what I was getting at…
#30 | Comment by AngelBaby — July 9, 2005 @ 4:46 am
AngelBaby,
What is this Ivory tower you are complaining about? why do you assume I live in one? I live in the real world just like you, however, I have no problem questioning the pudding I have been fed, unlike yourself just eating the shit and believing it.
Understand an analogy? its a weak analogy. It doesnt support your argument. It might try to make your weak argument stronger, but it makes you look like a fool.
#31 | Comment by brend0n — July 9, 2005 @ 6:52 am
#31
STFU
URATOOL
#32 | Comment by AngelBaby — July 10, 2005 @ 11:09 am