Why do people like this movie? It’s the most overrated piece of shit i’ve ever seen. I regret ever buying the DVD in the first place. I only picked it up because so many kept quoting the stupid the movie. Boondock Saints is terrible. Poorly written, poorly acted, inconsistent characters. How could anyone ever like it?
That scene where Willem Dafoe recounts what happened at the suburban house is so goddamn dumb. It took me weeks to get the image of that dumb bastard freaking out and saying “THERE WAS A FIREFIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT” out of my mind.
Not only is the movie stupid but the director is an asshole too. I hear he’s making a sequel. Hasn’t it been ‘in production’ for like the past 3 years or something? Whatever. I hope it never gets off the ground. Fuck Troy Duffy and fuck his movies. But you know what’s so great? The fact that he fucked himself over so much that he absolutely NO money AT ALL from the DVD sales.
For those of you who don’t know, Troy Duffy, is an asshole. He’s so much of an asshole that they actually made a documentary about it. It’s called Overnight. It tells the story of his rise to fame and how his egomaniacal ways caused him to fall from grace. Hard.
I’m too lazy to go into all the details of his downfall myself so here’s Roger Ebert’s review and synopsis of the film.
But if you’re too lazy to read, then watch the trailer instead.
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“Overnight” tells a riches-to-rags story, like “Project Greenlight” played in reverse. “Greenlight,” you will recall, is the Miramax contest to choose and produce one screenplay every year by a hopeful first-time filmmaker. In “Overnight,” the director starts out with a contract and money from Miramax, and works his way back to no contract, no film, and no money. Call it “Project Red Light.”
The documentary tells the Hollywood story of a nine-day’s wonder named Troy Duffy. He was a bartender at a sports bar called J. Sloan’s on Melrose, and had written a screenplay titled “The Boondock Saints.” He, his brothers and some friends had a rock band. In Los Angeles, every bartender under the age of 70 has a screenplay and is in a rock band, and they all want Harvey Weinstein of Miramax to read their script. After all, Harvey made Matt Damon and Ben Affleck stars by producing their screenplay of “Good Will Hunting.”
Troy Duffy hits the trifecta. Not only does Harvey buy his screenplay, but he signs Duffy to direct it, and the band gets a recording contract, and he agrees to buy the bar; they’ll own it together. To celebrate his good fortune, Duffy asked two friends, Tony Montana and Mark Brian Smith, to make a documentary of his rise. It turned out to be about his fall.
I’d give anything to see footage of the early meetings between Weinstein and Duffy. What magic did the bartender have, to so bedazzle Harvey? By the opening scenes of “Overnight,” Duffy has sold a $300,000 script, has been given a $15 million budget, has signed with the William Morris Agency, and brags, “I get drunk at night, wake up the next morning hung over, go into those meetings in my overalls, and they’re all wearing suits.” Being Hollywood agents, they are probably also more familiar with the danger signals of alcoholism than Duffy is.
One of the subtexts of the movie involves how people look at Troy Duffy. He is very full of himself. At one point he actually says that Harvey Weinstein would like to be him. He keeps all of the money, tells the guys in the band they will get paid later, later tells them they don’t deserve a dime, and still later tells them, “You do deserve it, but you’re not gonna get it.” He is deeply satisfied with himself: “We got a deep cesspool of creativity here,” he says, and boasts “this is the first time in history they’ve signed a band sight unseen.” Also, he might have reflected, sound unheard. As he’s acting out his ego trip, the camera shows the others in the room looking at him with what can only be described as extremely fed-up expressions. His family, we sense during one scene, has been listening to this blowhard for a lifetime, and although they are happy to share his success, they’re sort of waiting to see how he screws up.
So are we. The movie is pieced together out of uneven footage, and the idea of a documentary seems to have occurred in the midst of filming; at one point, a Morris agent walks into the room, looks at the lens, and says, “Oh, you got a better camera!” There are unfortunately no scenes between Duffy and Weinstein; the initial infatuation happens before the film starts, and then Weinstein pulls out of the deal by putting “The Boondock Saints” into dreaded “turnaround.” The recording contract is also canceled.
Eventually a Hollywood producer named Elie Samada, who has been behind some good films but is a controversial character, picks up “The Boondock Saints” for much less than the Miramax price, and Duffy is elated again. Having dissed Keanu Reeves, Ethan Hawke and Jon Bon Jovi (“I didn’t even know he was an actor”), he hires the excellent Willem Dafoe; we see one scene being filmed, in which characters a lot like Duffy and his friends get drunk and go berserk. The finished movie is taken to the Cannes marketplace, where not one single offer is made to purchase it. “Saints” eventually plays for one week in five theaters. The soundtrack album sells less than 600 copies. Then a car jumps the curb and hits Duffy, who “flees his apartment and arms himself.”
Ah, but there’s a happy ending! “The Boondock Saints” becomes a cult favorite on DVD, and Duffy is currently directing “Boondock II: All Saint’s Day.” Unfortunately, the Morris agency neglected to secure for him any portion of the DVD profits.
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I hate this movie and therefore i hate Troy Duffy, and i’m glad that he fucked himself over so bad that he can’t even get his stupid sequel off the ground.
The Boondock Saints sucks. Get over it.
doubt anybody will be reading this…don’t really know how I got onto this page, but I was reading through the comments, and seeing a lot of reference to the camera work and acting in the Boondock Saints, and I do agree to a certain degree that in that sense it was a pretty bad movie, but I also think that everybody fails to see the big picture of the movie. The reason why its found so great by many people is not the what you actually see on the screen, but more the messages it sends out.
Boondock Saints never seemed like an action movie to me where gun fights were the main emphasis, something many people do think it is. To me, Boondock Saints was a movie about brotherhood and more importantly, the line between morality. When is doing something bad considered good. What will society accept in relationship to murder and such. Its a question we all have in our minds and everybody has different answers to it. And I think this movie addresses this question, not to answer it, but more to bring to awareness that these issues are in existence in our society.
Boondock Saints is not about mobster Irish brothers and a gay detective riverdancing his way through the movie. Its a “cult classic” because it addressed an issue which we normally rather not discuss, but in certain degrees, we do agree with them.
I can say for myself that I have no understanding or acceptance of rape, I do understand and I will accept certain murders. I believe that sometimes, in certain situations, it can be “justified” to commit murder. We all have no problem when soldiers do it, and they do it for far lesser reasons than some people who have killed someone. In some cultures/societies, it is accepted, and the Boondock Saints brings this issue out into the open and hits us with a reality that has been around for centuries. Only, nowadays, we are so paranoid, and so abiding, that when a general public says something is bad, it has to be bad just for that reason. We cannot think for ourselves anymore and we cannot distinguish what is morally right or wrong.
Yes, I agree, Boondock Saints was not the best quality movie, but looking past that, I think you’d have to agree that the feelings and thoughts it brought afterwards (if you watched it with an open mind and not awaiting mindless action) does have a very strong relevance to our secret thoughts, desires and lives, and that it has a moral undertone to it, making it as beloved as it is by many
#1 | Comment by emilio — July 2, 2006 @ 9:01 am