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To: “‘psykotik@gmail.com'”
Subject: RE: Liddy Hoeler
From: Paul Moffatt PMoffatt@imgrisermgmt.com
Date: Fri, Jan 25 2002 11:47:30 AM -0600
Hey.whats up ? Cool site….Whos this Liddy Hoeler doing that strip
thing…? Never heard of her..
Paul
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First of all. Paul. You are a dick.
I was seriously contemplating writing you a sternly worded e-mail after reading those e-mails you sent to Crystal. You were lucky that she didn’t post up your e-mail address back then.
But thanks for writing to me though. Unlike Stal, i actually post up e-mail addresses. Now everyone knows your address. And can potentially flame the living crap out of you.
Paul, i’ll say it again. You’re a dick.
But this isn’t about Paul being a dick, this is about Libby Hoeler!
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To: psykotik@gmail.com
Subject: Your site and a historical question
From: “Furious George” curiouschimp@hotmail.com
Date: Wed, Jan 30 2002 2:54:15 AM -0800
I dig your site. Well designed. But I must know —
Who is Libby Hoeler? Not personally — I mean, what is the Internet mythology built on her? Do we know what happened to her? What her parents said? Is she working in the industry? Was she expelled from her university?
I am curious. Does she have cult status? I’m a journo so this seems to be an interesting story — like the Taiwan political sex scandal video, which I have still not seen but read about. Like the infamous Rob Lowe video years ago, everyone else has allgedely seen it…
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‘Internet Mythology’ eh? Well… to answer your first five questions:
I don’t know, i don’t know, i don’t know, i don’t know and i don’t know.
But i’m guessing (for questions number 2 through 5…):
2. She’s gone into hiding.
3. Her parents are super pissed.
4. Probably not (but she sure does have the talent to)
5. I’m guessing she wasn’t.
The videos in question:
Furthermore, here are two e-mails from two students who’re from University of Wisconsin Madison (where the videos originated) that pretty much prove that this all really did happen and isn’t just some hoax or myth.
I once had someone sign my guestbook pleading to me not to refer to Libby Hoeler as Libby Hoeler because he/she (?) said Libby Hoeler wasn’t actually Libby Hoeler and that the girl in the videos was just some Swedish porn actress or something. HAH. Well fuck you pal. These two e-mails pretty much prove that Libby Hoeler IS Libby Hoeler. Or should i say, Elizabeth Heller? Either way, i’ll just let these two e-mails do the talking.
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Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 17:34:44 -0600
From: xxxxx@students.wisc.edu
Subject: libby hoeler
hey. i came across your site after searching google for libby hoeler, i was bored. anyway, as a student at UW madison i could tell you what i know of her and the story. her real name is elizabeth heller. she is a sophomore now but was a freshman living in university housing when it happened. she lived in sellery hall, i was living across the street in witte hall where one of her good friends lived on my floor. the story i heard from him is that she made them for her boyfriend who was at college in milwaukee. she cheated on him and he found out, and he sent them to her parents, her grandparents, all her friends whose email addresses he knew and naturally they ended up on morpheus and kazaa. i dont know much else about it, i personally dont know her other than seeing her at a few parties.
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Girls who cheat always get their comeuppance.
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Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 20:41:59 -0600
From: xxxx@students.wisc.edu
Subject: Libby Hoeller
Hi,
Yes, the story is true. Of course, we knew about it about a year and a half ago. It happened sometime at the beginning of the 00-01 school year in Sellery Hall. It was funny; we even looked her up in the student directory. She lived about 3 doors down from where I used to live, but she was long gone by the time the pictures were distributed (and everyone tried to contact her). But yes, it is true. And if I have any credibility on this subject at all, it should be from my wisc.edu email address. Heh.
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Well there you have it. The ‘myth’ debunked.
Anyway. You mentioned the Taiwan political sex scandal video. Well. I know a place where you can get a sample of it.
No Rob Lowe video though. Maybe next time.
And hey, to anyone who’s reading this, if you’re a UW Madison student and you know and/or have heard of Libby Hoeler’s story, please feel free to write me an e-mail or leave a comment or whatever so we can further debunk this ‘internet mythology’.
Even though it’s already been debunked.
So to speak.
Later kiddies!
update: for more on libby hoeler, go here
Who is Lyana?
#1 | Comment by Rory — January 30, 2002 @ 10:55 am
awww :):) look who’s got my back ;D
<3 you kiddo 🙂 you are the best of times!
#2 | Comment by crystal — January 30, 2002 @ 1:38 pm
Hehe. Anytime Stal =]
Anyway. Lyana’s just this chick from Malaysia that got screwed by this other girl (as a means of ‘revenge’) who sent out those 15 or pics of her and that e-mail to practically the entire world.
(Long sentence, bad english. I know.)
I actually know a guy who knows one of Lyana’s ex’s who once tape recorded himself having sex with Lyana. Apparently she’s pretty wild in bed. Haha.
#3 | Comment by Justin — January 30, 2002 @ 8:18 pm
DEBUNKED…..OMG hahahahahahahahahahah
I <3 how this led me to your site and how it leads other people.....get in line you dumb monkeys.
you rule libby
#4 | Comment by vass — January 30, 2002 @ 8:48 pm
some day i’m gonna be famous. if i’m lucky, it won’t be because my ex bf sent out pics/vids of stupid crap i did for him. unfortunately, i have this feeling that my current bf would do something mean like that…
#5 | Comment by Miss Shigatsu — January 30, 2002 @ 11:14 pm
haha, classic!
#6 | Comment by Rory — January 31, 2002 @ 4:29 am
seriously justin .. who the hell is libby hoeler?? I’m still blur
#7 | Comment by Jamie — February 1, 2002 @ 8:33 am
Doesn’t anyone feel the least bit sorry for this girl? It’s a little unbalanced as comeback for cheating, I would say.
#8 | Comment by Moral Boy — February 1, 2002 @ 10:09 am
Love your "Girls who cheat" section.
Lyana = Fucking bitch.
#9 | Comment by trammel — February 4, 2002 @ 2:31 pm
Does anyone have any knowledge on her age?
How old was she during the "Making of" ?
And how old are the tapes?
Sincerely,
Garrie
Europe
#10 | Comment by Garrie — February 11, 2002 @ 9:19 am
actually i feel terribly sorry for her… poor girl, i highly doubt she deserved to have her videos, which she made for her boyfriend, posted all over the web. she obviously made them for someone, in every one she is lip syncing to the song and when ever the lyrics say "you" or "me" she points to the camera or herself then blows a kiss at the end… i do feel for the poor girl
#11 | Comment by kdiz — November 5, 2003 @ 3:11 pm
while i went to the university of wisconsin-madison during the 02-03 school year, i was eating lunch in my dorm cafeteria one day with a bunch of guys. the song "lets get it on" (from part 1) came on the radio and, all the guys at the table said ‘hey, this is that song from the videos.’ then, one of the guys told the rest of us the story of libby hoeler – much like the above story. so, i guess the legend lives on in Madison.
#12 | Comment by mike20 — December 30, 2003 @ 7:00 pm