…sucks.
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“I can’t tell you how shocked and surprised I am by what I have found today. Your dad had told me that a customer of his found a website on the internet called mindlessconformity.com. Little did we know this filth of a site was run by our own son. I can’t believe what I saw drew, going through all of your past articles and what you have written. The way you treat women, the way you exploit them is appalling. For the first time in my life I felt ashamed of you drew. What happened to the inocent boy who I used to know.
You call what you do entertainment. I can’t belive all the porn and naked women you put on your site. Its dirty. So this is what you do at school. Your dad and I work our asses off to and spend enless amounts of money on your education and this is the product. A website so degrading to women, and humanity that it makes me sick. Drew, this needs to stop. If it doesn’t consider yourself on you own for the rest of your college days. We need to talk.”
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Nope, that e-mail wasn’t for me (Because my name obviously isn’t Drew). It was for Drew over at Mindless Conformity. But i can so totally relate to everything being said in that e-mail though*
What would parents say if they found out that their kids are running what’s essentially a porno site (i know mine says “not a porn site” up there but come on… who am i kidding?)
Thankfully, my parents don’t really care about what i do with this site. In fact, my mom even reads it. I’m sure my parents don’t read the site like the rest of you people who usually just come here for the porn but still, it makes me feel weird knowing that they do. What with all the smut that’s on here.
“You call what you do entertainment. I can’t belive all the porn and naked women you put on your site. Its dirty. So this is what you do at school. Your dad and I work our asses off to and spend enless amounts of money on your education and this is the product.”
What would your parents say if they knew you ran a site like this?
Luckily mine don’t really care (and i find that a bit disturbing actually).
Sometimes i really do hate this site though. And all the wrong impressions about me that it might give out to people. My girlfriend almost wanted to break up with me last week because of me being such ‘a guy’ in one of the AIM convos that i posted up (the one about that WMU sorority girl). She didn’t think i could ever be like that and talk that way. For most of the part, she understands why i do the things i do on my site. She does know that i’m nothing like how i am on the site in real life. And after a long talk where i had to explain myself, my ‘online site persona’ etc etc, all was well. And she didn’t dump me. Phew. I guess sometimes i do cross the lines of decency every now and then. She really doesn’t like this site. And i’ve gotten into trouble over stuff that i’ve written on here. And it sucks when that happens =(
Well at least she already knew about my site from the moment we got together. Unlike this poor guy who got an e-mail from his girlfriend, after she found out about his site from a friend.
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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:19:30 -0800
From: “xxxxxxxxxx” xxxx@xxx.com
Subject: ???
To: slam3@mailcity.com
Hey baby… just out of curiousity…. why are you on the spoiled milk web site and not TELLING ME!!! If you’re wondering how I found out, xxxxxx xxxxxxxx told me that a guy on the front page looked kinda like you in the pictures that I have showed her. I was like “really?” he hasn’t told me anything about it…. then I thought that it was something from MTV that did it, so I got on the web site. Come, to find out, you put yourself on there… AND WANT NASTY ASS GIRLS TO ENTER YOUR CAM PORTAL!? Baby, you are with me, and ONLY me. I don’t care if you are joking or not, tell me if you do that. ok? that’s all I ask… now I am curious if you have done anything else I need to know about. And now I know where you got that weird voice from last night on the internet that you had no clue what it said. from “Update” on spoiledmilk.net. Call me when you get this if you haven’t already.
I love you xxxxxxxx
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His situation is actually pretty funny but it could’ve been more worse. Like in my case.
Anyway, got any thoughts on this matter? Leave a comment or something.
ppl need to understand that there are several ways to let it all out, be it through porn, excercise, sexcercise, jogging, hand jogging, etc… and even through websites.
think of it as a hobby.
hell, if i had the time, i would be owning my own site. however, the only way to relax nowadays is to just read other peoples thoughts and ideas, be it reality, or ‘on line persona’…
SADLY, i am too busy at work and this is the only other time i can give my views and share some of the ideas which this site offers.
i hate you for making me feel this way justin
#1 | Comment by beng — April 18, 2002 @ 3:13 am
I just find it kind of funny that people continue to assume that they can live a "net life" on one hand and a "normal life" on the other, and never will the two interact. Like if they’re simply careful enough not to mention their website around their parents (or whatever), the parents will never ever find out. Can’t be done. Not in the long run, anyway. It’s just too small a world and information’s too randomly pervasive for you to keep up the gig for all eternity.
The magic rule of thumb is to assume that anything you put online will end up being read by everybody. Your parents, your teachers, your classmates; your girlfriend and your exes; your friends and your enemies; your bosses and co-workers and employers-to-be. Everybody. I’ve been contacted by ex-girlfriends of arch-enemies just because I once mentioned a name in passing and Google picked it up. I’ve been contacted by CNN’s legal department for copyright violations; lord knows how they found me. Rest assured that if there is so much as a single person you would never want to see something you put online, they will indeed end up stumbling upon it sooner or later.
Which isn’t to say that you should never put up anything controversial, of course, but just that you should be aware of the consequences. Do whatever you want, so long as you’re willing to shoulder the potential cost of doing so. I’m perfectly fine with my mom knowing about such-and-such hot girl that I was slobbering about, but I’d rather she didn’t know about all the inner workings of my relationships; I censor myself accordingly.
So yeah, I feel bad for guys like Drew when this sort of bomb gets dropped on ’em like that… but really, it was kind of inevitable. Sucks, but that’s the way of the world, y’know?
#2 | Comment by Antwon — April 18, 2002 @ 6:44 am
DEAR LORD — how maniacally retarded is your girlfriend? Any girlfriend that even thinks of having a discussion about your "online" persona needs a fucking club over her head. You may not voice half the crap you write here, or may speak more reserved in "real" life. But if this isn’t part of your REAL personality, then I suggest you quit spending this much time in “unreality”. This is part of your real life, as much as anything else.
"My girlfriend almost wanted to break up with me last week because of me being such ‘a guy’ in one of the AIM convos that i posted up (the one about that WMU sorority girl). She didn’t think i could ever be like that and talk that way."
Are you for real? Apologizing for "being such a guy", moreover for "talking that way" — NEWSFLASH! — you freakin’ gonad-less wonder — YOU ARE A GUY?!? (Although this post makes me wonder.)
How the fuck else are you supposed to act? Like a pussy-whipped eunich? I suggest you organize a search party and find your testicles. Hint. Look for a tiny jar in your girlfriends purse.
Here’s a new TOPIC – the PUSSIFICATION OF THE AMERICAN MALE – discuss amongst yourselves…
#3 | Comment by SexxyBeast — April 18, 2002 @ 7:17 am
Yay! Intelligent comments. I have succeeded.
Actually Beast, what she meant by me ‘being such a guy’ was me being the type of guy that goes around degrading or objectifying women by just thinking of them as a pair of tits, ass and lips. Or whatever. Basically being a ‘bad guy’. I mean, come on, i’m sure you wouldn’t just go around talking like.. "Woah dude, did you check out the rack on that chick man? Like woah.. fuckme!" all over the place in front of girls. Right? Sure, you’d probably say that kinda stuff in front of your guy friends but that’s just guys being guys. And we all know how that can be like. Which is what i told her. I don’t go around being like that all the time. And when i do, it’s usually just online. I’d like to think of my site as being an outlet of sorts to just let out all the stuff that’s been bottled up inside that i would never let out in real life.
I’m sure everybody has the capability of being a ‘bad guy’ whether it be online or off. But i’d like to think of myself as a ‘nice guy’ in real life though. I know i don’t ever run my mouth off saying degrading stuff about women all the time. At least not in front of girls. In front of guys, yeah, maybe. But that’s, like i said before, just guys just being guys.
Someone once said this about my site:
"Now, I don’t want to piss off anyone more than necessary, so I would say you probably don’t want to check this site out if a guy indulging in guy-things offends you. If you think the concept behind the Man Show is a crime against humanity — this is not your site. On the face of it, it’s a basic E/N (everything/nothing), male (and I cannot emphasize "male" strongly enough) twenty-something site, except it’s visually appealing (most aren’t)."
My site is, in a word, is offensive. Well, it can be anyway. There are other more offensive-r sites out there but still, you can’t deny that my site isn’t. I mean, look at what that dude said up there. He’s a guy and even he thinks it might be offensive.
Point is, my gf found what i said offensive. She pretty much understands what i do on my site is for entertainment. But going over the line is just a no-no. Or at least going over her line.
#4 | Comment by Justin — April 18, 2002 @ 3:50 pm
LOL
I’d just like to thank beast for that. haha, yup, still laughing.
#5 | Comment by Zoe — April 18, 2002 @ 4:52 pm
Ok. You’re missing the point. I know what you’re saying n loud and clear. And you’ve just hit on one of my all-time pet peeves.
"Woah dude, did you check out the rack on that chick man? Like woah.. fuckme!" all over the place in front of girls. Right?
W R O N G. I am the EXACT same way around my girlfriend as I am around my guy friends. No different. That means comments like that come out of me all the time. Being any other way would make me a freakin’ liar. To myself, and more importantly to my girlfriend. What she sees is what she gets. Does that mean Im not a nice guy? No. Just means I don’t pretend to be something that I am not. You do. And so do most guys.
The funniest thing is that most chicks don’t get this including your girlfriend obviously. They all claim they want a relationship based on ‘honesty’, yet they’d rather pretend that you don’t talk this way with your guy friends when we BOTH know you do. So you live your life in duality, pretending at worst that you don’t talk/think this way, or at best knowing it, yet keeping it from her. Either way, its pathetic.
But yes I talk this way, “but… I don’t want to hurt my girls feelings” Cracka puhleaze. The reason this hurts her are her own insecurities. Give her a dollar and send her to the nearest shrink. Done.
Get your balls back. You know (or maybe you don’t) those trusty little things hanging in there with you? Somewhere in life you will need them. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, or the day after that. But someday. And you’ll thank me.
#6 | Comment by Sexxybeazt — April 18, 2002 @ 5:20 pm
What part of ‘this is for entertainment’ did you not get? I’m only like this on my site you silly goose. Just like how actors in Hollywood aren’t really like how they are onscreen in the movies. (although i wouldn’t compare myself to a hollywood actor, it’s still the same difference). Trust me, if i were to talk and think the way i really would in my everyday life on my site, this site would be REALLY boring. I am a REALLY boring guy in real life.
Anyway, more power to you if you found a girl who doesn’t mind being with an asshole. The difference between you and me is that i’m a nice guy who just pretends to be an asshole. Whereas you.. you ARE an asshole.
Oh and fyi, i really don’t talk that way irl. So it’s not like i’m pretending to be nice. It’s the other way round. Besides, this is just the internet. Anybody can be anything on the internet. Lighten up ‘sexxybeast’.
At least i use my real name.
#7 | Comment by Justin — April 18, 2002 @ 7:42 pm
Alright, Brad Pitt.
Look this is your sandbox – your perogative – your site – and for the record I’m entertained. So all is well in the world.
I think its funny though, that you’re "nice" pretending to be an "asshole". Seems a bit backward to me, wouldn’t it be more productive for "assholes" to pretend to be "nice"? Afterall, there seems to be more to gain by that…
Either way. I’m not buying your premise. Even if you’re "pretending". Its still part of your personality, at which point it really isn’t pretending anymore, now is it? But if you need to convince yourself of being, "really just a nice guy with an act", just long enough to get you laid with that broad of yours, then more power to your psychosis.
I don’t care if you’re only this way online. It’s still you. You’re not pretending in my view, and making apologies for it is just sad. You have NOTHING to apologize for. I think you’re entertaining, and neither masogenistic or sexist.
The, "at least I use my real name" has got to be the last resort, retort of retards the world over. You’re smarter than that. Please. You want my name? It’s Chris. Want a fansign of my penis, too? I’ll gladly give you my email, but I don’t want it flooded with crap. Happy?
Chris, in touch with his inner asshole.
#8 | Comment by SexxyBeast — April 18, 2002 @ 10:17 pm
Chill Sugar Ray.
Check this. Drew sent me an e-mail:
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Thats funny you were just talking about how you and your girl almost broke up because of your website. I had to deal with that same shit about a month ago. I was dating this girl and I had to tell her I had a webpage. It’s spreading around campus pretty fast so she would have found out eventually. But when I told her she was cool with it, until she went home and read what the fuck I said in my previous posts. Then she got all butthurt about it. But I also told her that most of the shit on my site is all a front. Like a different personality kinda. She doesn’t even read my site anymore because she doesn’t like it. And I dont post like I have a gf so it all works out. But its kinda wierd how that shit works.
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Take note of the bold print. Those are my thoughts exactly. It’s all just a front.
Sure, it’s still me who’s saying and thinking of all that stuff to put on the site but just because i say it and i think it, doesn’t mean i’m like that. You may not think i’m pretending but i know i am. And i should know because it’s me who’s doing it. If you were to ask anybody who knows me personally, they’ll tell you that i’m NOTHING like how i am online. They’d know that i was pretending. And i am. Pathetic or not, it works in favor of the site’s concept. A ‘guy‘ site. Maybe not as ‘guy-ish’ as COS or MindlessConformity or BeerOrSex, but still, a ‘guy’ site.
An asshole trying to be nice is a good step for the asshole. It might even get him a girl AND get him laid. But a nice guy (with nothing else better to do e.g. me) trying to be an asshole is a bad thing. Not exactly something anyone would wanna try to strive for (i guess i’m an exception). But when you do bad things and offend people by said bad actions; especially a loved one that you didnt’ mean to hurt, you apologize.
That’s what i would do anyway. But hey, different people, different strokes.
If i were to have just left everything alone and not apologized for what i’d said and done, i’d probably be single again right now.
And i DEFINITELY did not want that to happen. So my apologies for not wanting to let a great relationship go down the shitter.
Justin, not an asshole.
#9 | Comment by Justin — April 18, 2002 @ 11:12 pm
i hate drew for making me feel this way
#10 | Comment by beng — April 18, 2002 @ 11:14 pm
Ok. So you’re essentially a poser. Nothing wrong with that as long as your honest with yourself about it. Seems to me that you are.
Either way, at least i’m not really an asshole. Pfft and besides, if you’ve read the site long enough, there’ve been numerous times where i’ve admitted that i’m not who i’m like on the site. It’s been said before. Old news.
letting certain views/feelings out through this outlet as some sort of therapy, and give out the tempered you for the regular world.
not really. when i’m not thinking up stuff to say on the site for your general entertainment, i usually tend to worry about waking up in time for class, not spending too much money on dvds, doing well in class, not pissing off my gf etc etc.
I don’t worry about stuff that i WISH i could say in real life because i usually dont even think of those things in real life. i only think of things like that online. Just for the site. For entertainment. A fucked up creative outlet. A fubar outlet if you will. Me being bad in a good way. Because me offline is just boring me. Not at all tempered just plain boring old me. Me on the site is just an exagerrated spruced up guy-ish version me.
what’s the deep "concept"?
The ‘deep’ concept? Just a guy who’s not ‘a guy’ who’s pretending to be one who’s doing ‘a guy’ site.
Hence, me saying there was something to gain.
I have nothing to gain. I already have everything i could ever want right now.
But I guess you’re the non-conformist.
Didn’t i just say that?
NOT at the cost of being untrue to yourself.
Hey, i’m already being untrue to myself by just continuing to write shit on this site. Me apologizing for myself would constitute me trying to go back to being true to myself.
Let me paint you a picture with words:
1. Nice guy pretends to be asshole for site. Thus being untrue to himself.
2. ‘Asshole’ (who is really a nice guy) offends girlfriend with site.
3. ‘Asshole’ feels bad. ‘Asshole’ apologizes (thus trying to go back to being his true self in the eyes of girlfriend).
That’s how it really is.
If you REALLY meant it, then don’t be apologetic.
I didn’t mean to be offensive. I thought she understood how i can be on the site. For most of the part, she does. But i guess the thing that i happened to say was just the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back.
I wasn’t apologizing for being a guy. I’ll always have a dick between my legs (but never up my butt) for as long as i live. I was apologizing for being ‘guy-ish‘. Something i’m not; but am clearly am capable of thinking like. In essence, yes i was apologizing for my ‘puppetshow’. But that point seemed to have eluded you the first time so here i am pointing it out again.
Make sure you send her a link to that little plug.
Actually i won’t need to. I know she reads the site. And trust me, as long as this site is still in existence, i’ll NEVER score anything extra from her.
I’d rather be single than pretend to be someone or something I’m not.
I’m only pretending to be this way online (sorry to burst your bubble ‘loyal fans’!). Not in real life. There’s a difference.
It still doesn’t make what i do any better but there’s still a difference nonetheless. However minute.
But the point is, (to counter your ‘distancing myself from the site’ comment)
1. No i’m not at all like how i am on the site.
2. I actually do like porn. Okay that sounds wrong but seriously, what real guy doesn’t? But the difference being that i’m not ALL about porn ala Stile.
3. It’s just a big act.
4. And if providing porn makes me somewhat of a ‘cool great online personality’, hey i’m all for it. I mean, everybody knows how much of an ego i have. Provided if you’ve been reading the site long enough that is. Before i started selling out to cheap porn tactics to get meaningless; yet satisfying to get, hits.
This whole site, the porn, the hits, my ‘fans’..etc etc.. all serve to boost my ego. It’s fun. It does nothing to boost my popularity in real life but for what it is, it’s just fun stupid internet shit.
Oh and finally:
She swallows it.
Dude, she’s known me for close to 3 years now. Waaaaaay before i even started this site. She knows how i was like before i even began this charade. It’s not like i’ve been pulling wool over her eyes since i first met her. It’s not like i’ve ‘fed’ her anything. She knows how i’m like, i just decided to ‘change’ for the site, she didn’t like it, and i’m just apologizing to her and reminding her that i’m not at all like that.
and that’s pretty much it in a nutshell.
Hey can i still have that fansign with your dick in it? For all the female porn i’ve been putting up on the site, i think it’s about time i please my female readers with some male porn. Ha.
#11 | Comment by Justin — April 19, 2002 @ 1:39 am
Cock shots of some jackass who likes to find softcore porn sites and argue semantics with them? Justin, you should know better. Now, please excuse me while I go find people on the internet that I don’t know and engage in long, pointless arguments with them in their webpages’ comments section.
#12 | Comment by thess — April 19, 2002 @ 2:08 am
i hope u’re kidding bout that dick pic
#13 | Comment by D — April 19, 2002 @ 2:09 am
Hey Justin… in case it needs to be said.
Why else would I be posting here. So ’nuff said. What I said still stands, but I think you’ve made your points and in the interest of not wasting precious bytes I’d like to leave it at that. I never intended this to be such a drawn out cross-post.
I’ll send you that dick pic, but considering I’m hung like a squirrel, I going to need a very small lense.
Thess. Please. You’re not even remotely interesting. I’d rather stare at a blank wall than put myself through the agony of reading your pointless dribble. Last time I checked I had chunks in my stool with more personality than you’ll ever have and if wasting bandwidth was a crime, you’d be executed on the spot.
PS: Disregard my other email I screwed it up. Its fixed.
#14 | Comment by SexxyBeast — April 19, 2002 @ 4:10 am
NOTE: Ok. Before I get called a moron the world over, for double posting. Don’t think I don’t know how strong the temptation is. The cgi-script was burping errors at me and posted twice.
Sorry, I may be a moron, but I’m not stupid. And yes, the latter invites all kinds of wise crack remarks. Try to refrain. It’s too easy.
#15 | Comment by SexxyBeast — April 19, 2002 @ 4:46 am
Take note of the bold print. Those are my thoughts exactly. It’s all just a front.
Ok. So you’re essentially a poser. Nothing wrong with that as long as your honest with yourself about it. Seems to me that you are.
Sure, it’s still me who’s saying and thinking of all that stuff to put on the site but just because i say it and i think it, doesn’t mean i’m like that. You may not think i’m pretending but i
Au contraire mon frere. As argued before, I would say it means you’re EXACTLY like that. "Exactly" being, you’re letting certain views/feelings out through this outlet as some sort of therapy, and give out the tempered you for the regular world.
know i am. And i should know because it’s me who’s doing it. If you were to ask anybody who knows me personally, they’ll tell you that i’m NOTHING like how i am online. They’d know that i was pretending. And i am. Pathetic or not, it works in favor of the site’s concept. A ‘guy’ site. Maybe not as ‘guy-ish’ as COS or MindlessConformity or BeerOrSex, but still, a ‘guy’ site.
Hey, and here I thought you were a guy doing a guy site… what’s the deep "concept"? Seems pretty straight forward to me.
An asshole trying to be nice is a good step for the asshole. It might even get him a girl AND get him laid.
Hence, me saying there was something to gain.
But a nice guy (with nothing else better to do e.g. me) trying to be an asshole is a bad thing. Not exactly something anyone would wanna try to strive for (i guess i’m an exception). But when
My point, exactly. But I guess you’re the non-conformist.
you do bad things and offend people by said bad actions; especially a loved one that you didnt’ mean to hurt, you apologize.
NOT at the cost of being untrue to yourself. If you REALLY meant it, then don’t be apologetic. Thus, my earlier statement, about NOT apologizing for being a guy. But I think you’re saying you’re apologizing for the puppetshow your putting on, since it really isn’t any part of you. Hence, just an act.
That’s what i would do anyway. But hey, different people, different strokes.
If i were to have just left everything alone and not apologized for what i’d said and done, i’d probably be single again right now.
And i DEFINITELY did not want that to happen. So my apologies for not wanting to let a great relationship go down the shitter.
LOL. Make sure you send her a link to that little plug. You’ll score extra for that.
Then again, personally I’d rather be single than pretend to be someone or something I’m not. For better or for worse. What I think you’re saying is that you’d distance yourself from this site with a "PC" label of, "…but honey, that’s really not me, or my views, or beliefs, …gee I’m not even into porn. I’m just doing it for all the kiddies out there! Its just a big act… truth be told I’m just doing the site out of the goodness of my heart for some orphans in south america." She swallows it. You still get laid. And the world is perfect.
And most importantly. I continue to be entertained. For that I thank you. 🙂
#16 | Comment by SexxyBeast — April 19, 2002 @ 12:28 pm
Oh god, let the whole porn thing go already. Get the real thing. Ain’t your girlfriends porn enough for you?
#17 | Comment by someone's girlfriend — April 29, 2002 @ 3:51 pm