It’s the end of the world as we know it…

Hi. My name is Zac. I am also PacManJesus, and the pupeteer of Tasha-Ray in the chat logs. There really does seem to be an insane amount of talk about Avril around here. Hell, there was less talk about her when she was on the actual site! You people just can’t let go can you? Speaking of, Avril’s CD “Let Go” has probably gone like triple uber platinum by now, and it really bugs me. Now I have a confession to make. I actually went out and bought that damned CD. I feel horrible about it, I really do. That doesn’t mean I wouldn’t hump her, though. But I spent almost 15 bucks, American, for that. Not only do I feel bad about the CD, but I feel bad about actually paying for ANY CD. The only CD that I have bought since then was Black Sabbath’s “Paranoid”…. hey, I had to spend my Best Buy gift card somehow…

I don’t have a giant problem with Avril Lavigne, or, I didn’t until today when I caught I giant whiff of MTV News. Turns out that tonight Avril will be in a tribute show to Metallica. There are SO MANY THINGS WRONG WITH THIS. I like Metallica, but more importantly I respect them, and I don’t think it is right for their reputation to be shat on my an 18 year old who is this months babrie, with Arista controlling her. Not only that, but you know who will be performing with her? SUM FREAKIN 41! The world has gone horribly wrong. On this MTV News segment, before I tried to hang myself, I saw an interview with Avril about it… and this is honestly what she said. She said that she doesn’t “really listen to much Metalica.” She went on to explain how she hadn’t even heard the song she was performing. Folks, this is fucked up. Metallica deserves to be an MTVicon, just like Aerosmith and Janet Jackson before them, but this is a disgrace. MTV is simply using people that they think are popular to draw in viewers. They don’t care whether the person that is playing has ever even heard the band, as long as they are popluar enough to draw in 10,000 12 year old girls and a few 35 year old guys that just want to hump Avril. Those are the people listening to her music folks. Her concerts are like a bunch of really short high pitched 12 year old prehubesent girls and right in the middle of them is this big balding 35 year old guy who keeps screaming how he wants her body. At this point in my life you would have to hog tie me, kicking and screaming to go to a concert with Avril in it. I don’t hate her. I liked her a lot when I first saw the video, I had a small obsession, and that was great… then it got really old, really fast. And now everyone is questioning whether or not it is act…

She is an 18 year old girl who gets brazillian waxes and hasn’t listened to Metallica… but then again those ties do make her look hardcore. She apparently doesn’t listen to a lot of rock music… and she did say that she hates the “whorish” ways of Christina and Brittany, so she doesn’t listen to pop… so what the hell does she listen to. Or when she goes to sleep does she just play a recording of someone saying, “You are hardcore, you are a rebel, you are punk, you are hardcore, you are…” over and over again. It doesn’t matter who puts the words in her mouth, or who writes the music, all I know is that the world of music is becoming a sad state of affairs. Listen, fubarians, it will be a sad sad day when Avril Lavigne is the definition of punk. Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, The Ramones, any of this ring a bell? This is punk. If the 2004 “Punk” tour features Avril Lavigne, Sum 41, or Good Charlotte, then you can find me lying in my bathroom unconscious, on the floor with a toothbrush jammed in my ears, bleeding to death.

But I’d still hump her…

62 thoughts on “It’s the end of the world as we know it…

  1. well i have to agree with you there… Avril should not be chosen to do a metallica tribute. i am not a fan of metallica, but hey whatever, they are an american music icon, and shouldn’t be degraded by her pop rock playin ass. I would hump her too.

    #1 | Comment by jb — May 7, 2003 @ 8:55 am

  2. I think most of the people who ‘support’ her on this site do so because they’d hump her too – but that doesn’t excuse buying her CD. Seriously, how did it take you this long to realise that Avril was perhaps not a ‘serious’ artist? (Ooh I ‘love’ those inverted commas) I mean from the rest of the post I’m thinking you should have seen straight through her.
    Sure, I’m no music expert, but I do know that after seeing her first video I wanted to strangle her with that bloody tie. And possibly hump her too, though I’m not sure which I’d do first.
    But anyway, running around a mall being rebellious (maybe I should put that in inverted commas too) is pretty much as edgy as it gets for sub-urban ‘punk’. In fact it pretty much sums up the genre.
    So, in conclusion – what the fuck, you bought her CD?!?!!

    #2 | Comment by ashdcuk — May 7, 2003 @ 9:41 am

  3. ok i agree with u on that post…i’m a metallica fan and i definetly think that she shouldn’t of been picked to do any of their songs or anything that has to do with metallica…..she’s never heard any of their songs…anyhow…i’m pretty much not gonna say anything because anything that i would say has already been said in the previous posts…. and just sitting here after watching that crap just proves how fake mtv is…oviously i wouldn’t hump i dont support her…. oh and by the way…have u guys heard her cover of S.O.A.D chop suey?….omg…that was horrible..she didn’t even know the words to the song…….at least she learned a little bit from her mistake as in she remembered to actually sit down and learn the lyrics this time….

    #3 | Comment by ella — May 7, 2003 @ 9:59 am

  4. hi zac.

    bye zac.

    #4 | Comment by prozac — May 7, 2003 @ 10:01 am

  5. Ladies and gentlemen, the PacManJesus has spoken.

    And all the people said "Amen" in complete agreement.

    #5 | Comment by cf — May 7, 2003 @ 10:06 am

  6. I am a fan of avril but i dont think she should have preformed at the metallica thing. Nuff said.

    #6 | Comment by Amz — May 7, 2003 @ 10:26 am

  7. Don’t think about Avril singing Metallica’s song, just do what i do and think about her hairless vagina. *still waiting on pics of girls* email me.

    #7 | Comment by nived — May 7, 2003 @ 10:26 am

  8. Did any of you actually see it? She sang fuel btw, and it was the only decent cover at the whole damn thing, She was the only person that didn’t try and put her own curve on a metallica song which i think would’ve been more offending then if fking fiona apple tried to do a cover. KoRN BUTCHERED One, snoop dogg was there just for laughs i think and sum 41 did a decent job too. I have every metallica CD, I am going to summer sanitarium this 4th of july. I pay for metallica fan club membership, i know every single song. I’ve briefly met every member. I personally don’t even like Avrils music that much, she is definitely towards the bottom of my tolerable bands list, but she did give the most tolerable performance there, behind of course Metallica, which kicked ass btw.

    #8 | Comment by Dionysus187 — May 7, 2003 @ 10:44 am

  9. i watched it also. Whats btw?

    #9 | Comment by nived — May 7, 2003 @ 10:57 am

  10. Dont forget Bad Religion!!!!

    #10 | Comment by Ball Zac — May 7, 2003 @ 11:25 am

  11. Man you took the words out of my mouth, o and ball zac, bad religion is a good band, but they are sell outs, any band to go on MTV sells out, anyband playing on the radio 4 times a day is a sellout and band who signs on a major record label for money is a sellout. Look into Operation Ivy, they never sold out, they only became popular when Rancid got together, o ya any band sold in hot topic is a sellout and should be burned at the stake, hot topic is the Anti-christ of punk, they should be all arsoned, and also because Avril shops there, i would bet she bought some stud fuck bra there so that shes hot topic head to other head then toe

    #11 | Comment by P. Orno Rocks — May 7, 2003 @ 11:41 am

  12. i watched it also. Whats btw?

    Posted by nived – 10:57am May 7, 2003

    by the way

    #12 | Comment by vhw — May 7, 2003 @ 11:44 am

  13. You like me, you really like me! Justin said I was gonna catch a lot of shit from this, and I am still waiting for it. But at least you didn’t eat me alive, folks…

    #13 | Comment by PacManJesus — May 7, 2003 @ 11:53 am

  14. word!

    #14 | Comment by bligityblah — May 7, 2003 @ 12:34 pm

  15. Amen pacman dude. The line between wanting to hump her and wanting to drown her is thin indeed.

    #15 | Comment by Lock — May 7, 2003 @ 1:00 pm

  16. "but I do know that after seeing her first video I wanted to strangle her with that bloody tie. And possibly hump her too, though I’m not sure which I’d do first."

    "The line between wanting to hump her and wanting to drown her is thin indeed."

    This place is full of Killfuck rip-offs.

    #16 | Comment by Kingolf — May 7, 2003 @ 1:31 pm

  17. And Killfuck is….?

    #17 | Comment by ashdcuk — May 7, 2003 @ 2:00 pm

  18. The Killfucks are a hardcore boyband baby!

    Anyway, I agree with Dionysus187, Avril’s cover or Fuel was really the best of the night. I didn’t think she should have been there, but she did a good job so….why not? Oh yeah, don’t forget Social Distortion either!

    #18 | Comment by Bubba — May 7, 2003 @ 3:38 pm

  19. Hi. 😀

    #19 | Comment by thess — May 7, 2003 @ 4:12 pm

  20. I have the impression Avril is beeing lived,
    when she was in Belgium and someone asked her for her opinion about the Irak war she wasn’t allowed to answer…
    Who covers a song that he/she has never heard ?
    Avril is beeing lived !
    But I would hump her too :=)

    #20 | Comment by wDw — May 7, 2003 @ 5:58 pm

  21. Pacman Jesus-

    You are forgetting this simple fact: Metallica is a group of money grubbing man-whores!!!!!!!!

    They are probably HAPPY to have their music played by her to broaden their fan base or whatever dumbass logic they employeed (maybe they just got paid a lot of money)

    Do not forget these are the same folks that brought down Napster because they were losing profits.

    #21 | Comment by smash — May 7, 2003 @ 6:04 pm

  22. I have to side with smash on this one. I used to be a huge Metallica fan. While some of you say you jave all of their CDs, I have Kill ‘Em All and Ride the Lightning in Vinyl. For those of you too young, that is the predacessor of CD’s and Cassette tapes. I saw them live 3 times in 1985 alone. By the way, this was the same damn year Avril was born.

    Anyway. I no longer listen to Metallica, well occaisionally I listen to Anesthesia( best bass solo out there) They like so many of the rest have sold out to the corporate interests that be. I do have all of there songs available on KaZaA though just so people can have them free.

    Now I try to listen to Bands that promote live recording and the sharing of it. Grateful Dead, Phish, Donna the Buffalo, Allman Bros.

    Metallica sold out.
    Avril was born sold out (but I’d still hump her)


    #22 | Comment by AKA postal — May 7, 2003 @ 8:56 pm

  23. want a good laugh check this out..

    #23 | Comment by WP_LeGeNd — May 7, 2003 @ 9:27 pm

  24. No one should be doing a tribute to Metallica except for the Gnutella network for getting rid of Napster and introducing the ENTIRE world to free music. God bless Metallica for bringing the worlds masses to Gnutella and basically multiplying the number of free music files available by like 1000x … they may have a good set of tunes, but they are dumb like tree stump. Of course their stupidity worked out great for us the theives of music.

    #24 | Comment by Dave Marshak — May 7, 2003 @ 9:41 pm

  25. WP LeGeNd,

    That clip slays me. Pure genius.

    #25 | Comment by RedEye — May 7, 2003 @ 11:00 pm

  26. I don’t watch TV for these exact reasons-I think I would have laughed my ass off. Mtv has left a clevland steamer on america’s chest with it shit filled days of road rules, real world, road rules vs. real world, real world reunion, puffy being in the top 50-no even being in the top 1000 most influential rappers!!For the love of god!!It started out good with the bungles, but it just turned to crap somewhere around a noxema commercial. We now have shows like TRL-what the hell is that??? SAT help for the day: TRL is to Boy Bands as Taco Bell is to Hot Snakes. I have seen even worse crap on tv than that!!Survivor and bachelor and who wants to marry a millionare and soon enough, on ABC this coming fall, as real as it gets-Little Jimmy right inside the womb! Children will be born with video camera implants from now on, to give that real life feel when we sit in front of the idiot-box. I emplore you fubarians, smash your tv! And for christsakes man, why the hell did you encourage her??Don’t buy her cd’s!rip them off!

    And for the record, although Bad Religion may have sold out, their music has not changed, so good for them for making more money for doing the same thing…

    #26 | Comment by me — May 7, 2003 @ 11:04 pm

  27. Oh yeah, and the clip-there is nothing funnier than a fat kid getting dizzy, swinging around a shower curtain rod, perfecting his audition for the next star wars in case, for some reason, they need a younger, fatter skywalker

    #27 | Comment by me — May 7, 2003 @ 11:08 pm

  28. Thats the best rant i ever saw.

    #28 | Comment by Jasper — May 7, 2003 @ 11:29 pm

  29. her performance sucked.

    don’t get me wrong…her band kicked ass. her voice sounded fine. but she obviously did not get into the song and didn’t really seem to care that she was there at all. definitely a publicity move on her part.

    she’s got some excellent people working for her, a lovely voice and a humpable image. that’s all she needs.

    she’s not a musician. she’s a money making tool.

    #29 | Comment by lizzie — May 8, 2003 @ 2:41 am

  30. Lizzie is totally correct. It’s all about $$$$. Dirty secret of the music industry….CD sales don’t make money. They lose money. Bands don’t make crap off sales, nor do the companies. The real money is in the live shows. The box office, the licensing and merchandising, premiums for public appearances and interviews with local radio stations, clothing deals (a newer money maker, i.e., paid by brands to wear their stuff), cigarette deals and liquor deals (yep, rock stars pen these all the time)(you think Tommy Lee drinks Makers Mark and smokes Marlboro’s for free? No way. He’s paid to use the product and be seen using it), other assorted musical instrument endorsements (ex. Michele Branch, Martin Guitars, Tommy Lee, DrumWorkshop Drums). It’s all image. How do you think mega groups like the Stones and U2 make such huge amounts of money? All of the above.

    However, mega artists will also have guaranteed payment of huge sums just for signing with a label. U2 had a $50 million price tag for signing with their current label.

    Is Avril punk? Hell no. Does she draw people and make money? Hell yes. Therefore, she will be around for a bit.

    #30 | Comment by grud — May 8, 2003 @ 4:04 am

  31. One thing I don’t understand is how the ppl in the music industry can complain non stop about the sum of money ppl "rob" them off when free dloads occur over kazaa/bittorrent. Don’t they make ooOoOoOdles of money already? I mean, if a consumer decides to truly support the band (or out of guilt), they’d buy the record, go to the concerts, buy the clothes they wear so on and so forth.

    But then again you’d have to be a marketable artist for that…

    #31 | Comment by Pessimist — May 8, 2003 @ 4:30 am

  32. The term marketable often means "comes with a pair of b00bies" nowadays though…

    #32 | Comment by Pessimist — May 8, 2003 @ 4:31 am

  33. Brilliant. The "but those ties do make her look hardcore…" comment cracked me up. Finally someone who truly realizes the "punk" issue. Sure, lots of people bitch about how she’s a "poseur", but the majority of those people would probably also classify Good Charlotte as punk if asked to name someone "more punk" than her. It’s all a load of lame, idiotic hypocrisy. It’s a shame that people my age are growing up thinking that Avril and Good Charlotte are actually truly "punk". I’m not a terribly big fan of Metallica, but it really did bother me that she was covering their music when she’d never even HEARD any of it before. I couldn’t agree more completely with your comments about Mtv simply trying to draw an audience. You made some intelligent, valid points in this little mini-article. Very well done. 🙂

    #33 | Comment by Laura — May 8, 2003 @ 4:58 am

  34. Ahhhh…the ol’ we’re losing our ass to file sharing argument. Truth-they were losing their ass already. CD sales have been down for a good while. It has very little to do with file sharing and much more to do with the smaller pool of big name groups and artists that exist today. Ten years ago, you would have several big groups selling big, high p.r. releases per month, and those groups drew well on tour. Not so today. Bands do not release as well as single artists for whatever consumer reason. In addition, high ticket prices have hurt tours. Ten years ago, bands would all hit medium size, indoor arenas. Now they don’t. They either do the mega tour, outdoor ampitheater tour, or they do a small venue tour (by and large).

    Most of this has to do with a talent vaccum in the industry. Too many knock offs, no big groups on the rise. No originality. Little true talent.

    Yes, file sharing is a copyright violation. However, it is not one that has really hurt the industry. It was already hurting.

    #34 | Comment by grud — May 8, 2003 @ 5:01 am

  35. don’t listen to mainstream, it is only what the recording labels want you to hear. support your local bands, that is where the heart and soul of music is nowdays. Avril = played out…..

    #35 | Comment by joe blow — May 8, 2003 @ 5:24 am

  36. I totally agree with Joel Blow. Real music is the ones that is imbeded in people that have to work thier asses off in small clubs every night. I live near a place called The Phoenix, and there are concerts there often, and those are people that work thier asses of for music. That is the truest form of a beatiful thing. There arent too many mainstream bands that play there, the biggest band I have seen there is the Dead Kennedys, and that show rocked. It has a real casual enviroment, so I got to hang out with the band afterwards, and that is prolly one of the highlights of my life. True music lies in those who have to work for it.

    #36 | Comment by PacManJesus — May 8, 2003 @ 5:46 am

  37. There is still big money in CD sales. Each CD including recording packaging and distribution costs about $2.20 each to make. Wholesale cost averages $6.50 each. A gross profit of $4.30 each. Avril’s "album" has sold 5.5 million copies to date. I’ll do the math for you………………22.65 million (I think) Of that a new Artist could expect to get between 25 and 30 percent.

    This leaves the poor old recording company with about 15 million dollars. And Avril’s Album never even hit #1.

    There is HUGE money in Album sales, that is why you will never see an end to them trying to stop internet sharing.


    #37 | Comment by AKA postal — May 8, 2003 @ 6:27 am

  38. Living in the small town i that i do, there is absolutely no taste in music expect for a few people like myself. A couple people realize that the crap on the so called "hip" radio is god awful. There is only so many times a person can stand to hear 50 Cent In Da Club. And to top it off, it just reached radio up here. And i get criticized for buying a White Stripes Cd. People now a days have no idea what to listen to.

    Buying Cds is for suckers!

    #38 | Comment by mackenry — May 8, 2003 @ 7:47 am

  39. Oh yeah, while they lament the boldfacedness of Avril Lavigne doing a cover, I asked myself this question..
    "why do they think anyone gives a fuck who does a Metallica cover?"

    I, and this is my personal opinion ,think Metallica is crap, and, don’t spit at my post yet; I think it’s much more praiseworthy that a young teenager can produce the material Avril Lavigne has.

    It certainly beats 40 yr old men banging on instruments and screaming whatever the hell they are screaming.

    Also, I just learnt this phrase and I want to repeat the mellifluous feeling I got when I first typed it.
    "Entente cordiale"
    That is just orgasmic!

    #39 | Comment by Discommode — May 8, 2003 @ 8:03 am

  40. Nice one Disco.

    Anyway, you guys are talking about local bands and such…

    "I totally agree with Joel Blow. Real music is the ones that is imbeded in people that have to work thier asses off in small clubs every night. I live near a place called The Phoenix, and there are concerts there often, and those are people that work thier asses of for music. That is the truest form of a beatiful thing. There arent too many mainstream bands that play there, the biggest band I have seen there is the Dead Kennedys, and that show rocked. It has a real casual enviroment, so I got to hang out with the band afterwards, and that is prolly one of the highlights of my life. True music lies in those who have to work for it.

    Posted by PacManJesus – 5:46am May 8, 2003"

    Now, wouldn’t you want your favorite local band to make it big eventually? They’re making shit money only playing at clubs. Now….they get famous, then they become mainstream…you now shun them? Preposterous!!! If I had a band, I would "sell out"…it’s the smart thing to do. Why not make more money doing what you love? I don’t understand all you fools and your logic. "You were MY band! You traitor! I used to love you, but now I hate you!" Blah, blah, blah, stop whining, it’s out of your hands. You like a band, or you don’t. To change your mind for such an idiotic reason (selling out)is once again….preposterous.

    #40 | Comment by Bubba — May 8, 2003 @ 8:38 am

  41. My band would be named The Sellouts, for that extra shut-the-fuck-up-you-capricious-hippie-we’re-trying-to-live-the-dream type mojo.

    #41 | Comment by Seriously — May 8, 2003 @ 8:43 am

  42. =D

    #42 | Comment by Bubba — May 8, 2003 @ 9:02 am

  43. omg all i have to say is that she fucked up that song so bad it’s sad….

    #43 | Comment by sher — May 8, 2003 @ 9:35 am

  44. Nice post Bubba. I hate the term sellout. Some fans seem to want their favourite artists to remain obscure – because obscurity has a coolness of its own. To be honest, for all my comments about wanting to strangle Avril I can’t fault her for making money, however she does it – it’s the places she gets money from (buying public, crappy radio and tv) that are to blame.

    #44 | Comment by ashdcuk — May 8, 2003 @ 9:42 am

  45. i agree with bubbzie and ash. i like it when my fave bands hit it big. i try not to judge what i like in regards to anything… from music to fashion to food… by what is popular. i can’t stand people when they have that innate desire to avoid something cool just because it is mainstream.

    #45 | Comment by lizzie — May 8, 2003 @ 11:06 am

  46. Metallica "sold out" because they started as this heavy metal anti-establishment band, and then BECAME the establishment in there effort to close napster.

    Avril, as I said earlier, was born sold out, she was created, and to try and call that punk, in any way shape or form, is bullshit.

    Is there anything wrong with a smalltown band that makes it big, hell no, anybody who does it soley for the love of the music is always going to be playing on the corner. The qestion is weather or not you can live with yourself being a "pop" band, or worse yet adult contemporary.

    #46 | Comment by AKA postal — May 8, 2003 @ 11:23 am

  47. If a song sounds good to me, I’ll download it and listen to it. Not much else comes into it. The diversity on the hard drive containing my mp3’s is therefore huge.
    I think most of you are complicating a simple matter. It’s *music*. Try and say the word without the connotations of life style and ethical dilemma.

    Kingolf: ‘Killfuck’ ??? … moron. Don’t try and classify me based on your limited experience.

    #47 | Comment by Lock — May 8, 2003 @ 1:35 pm

  48. I have no problem with with people who make money making music, I don’t see a problem with people being supported off of what they love. I am just saying that the people who play night after night in dingy clubs for squat pay are true musicians, and that is true music. Not that I don’t like Metallica. I don’t really think what they did was that bad, except for the fact that they were dicks about the whole Napster thing. If we want to talk about Sellouts then just look at Kiss. They are the definition of sellouts. They make good music, but that doesnt mean that they should make billions off of every other market. They made movie, pin-ball machines, comic books, those little bobble head dolls, action figures, clothes, face makeup, all this shit with there name on it to make a few bucks… that I have a problem with!

    #48 | Comment by PacManJesus — May 8, 2003 @ 1:41 pm

  49. My comment on Metallica has warped into this napster debate.

    My original point was to PacManJesus saying he shouldn’t feel bad for metallica having ‘punk’ tribute them….they probably relish the $$$$ it translates to.

    #49 | Comment by smash — May 8, 2003 @ 5:43 pm

  50. On the Napster issue:

    I actually *BUY* music, movies, and games of things I enjoy to support. But whoever said it here is right:

    Napster did not cause LOSS in sales: shit records from shit bands did.

    It’s the same argument that gaming companies make: We lost 3 million sales of Grand Theft Auto 3 due to piracy!!! No you didn’t. The pirates wouldn’t have bought the damn game.

    #50 | Comment by smash — May 8, 2003 @ 5:46 pm

  51. I don’t understand why artists bring out a cd with only 40 minutes of songs this is outrageous and they expect us to dishout 20 euro’s… thats incredible.

    #51 | Comment by WP_LeGeNd — May 8, 2003 @ 6:14 pm

  52. Live jam bands are the only way to go. Several encourage live taping and trading of shows. See one of these and you will know what it is all about:

    #52 | Comment by panic — May 8, 2003 @ 10:17 pm

  53. I definitely think she shouldn’t have been at the MTV Icon taping nevermind performing.

    I really don’t know what MTV was thinking… Grabbing a pop icon to do a metallica song. Thats like having the dixie chicks cover Led Zepplin tunes.

    It’s just not right.

    #53 | Comment by Jared — May 8, 2003 @ 10:31 pm

  54. I agree with what you said about the state of music these days. I’ve finally managed to stop automaticlly calling bands like Sum 41 and Newfound Glory punk, and started calling them power pop. There’s still good music out there, it’s just a little harder to find because the pop bands hog the spotlight.

    #54 | Comment by Harrison — May 9, 2003 @ 2:33 am

  55. Hey Zac @ PacManJesus:

    Thanks for one of the most substantive, comment friendly posts I’ve read on f.u.b.a.r! Minus the trash talk and thoughts on humping, this was truly stimulating 🙂

    b00bies = good
    intelligent discussion = good
    therefore b00bies = intelligent discussion

    #55 | Comment by Averrhyz — May 9, 2003 @ 3:31 am

  56. Metallica never sold out. It’s fans like the ones here bitchin about them who sold out. If you were a true Metallica fan, u would not say they sold out. You are the sellouts. I’m for Metallica "through the never" end.

    #56 | Comment by nived — May 9, 2003 @ 3:45 am

  57. Oh….Metallica did sell out. Listen to the all their stuff prior to Master of Puppets and the compare it to after. Big sell out. I don’t like Metallica. They started thrash. Thrash=Silly

    Iron Maiden never sold out. Now that’s a heavy metal band. Icons.

    #57 | Comment by grud — May 9, 2003 @ 4:51 am

  58. So the freakiest thing about this article about record producers The Matrix is Liz Phair saying she wished she sounded like Avril Lavigne!

    #58 | Comment by RedEye — May 9, 2003 @ 5:22 am

  59. Dixie Chicks = cover of Led Zep? Absolute Horrors.

    But what exactly does it take for a band to equate being sellouts? If they continue to play good music… then it shouldn’t be a problem should it? If it’s the price of CDs going up, could be the increase in production costs. If it’s the price of their concert tickets, it could also be the additional costs – bigger stage, bigger venue ect. Why should "selling out" be a factor in liking what we want to hear? I simply don’t see the correlation.

    Or mebbe it’s just us trying to justify why Band A who sells out "sucks" while Band B who continues to make minimal wage playing small time gigs in small pubs make "real music". Makes no sense. If Band B were any good, they’ll be in Band A’s shoes in no time.

    #59 | Comment by Pessimist — May 9, 2003 @ 12:37 pm

  60. hump hump humpiddy hump…who wouldn’t?!

    #60 | Comment by Josh* — May 10, 2003 @ 12:25 pm

  61. avril sucks, because i have seen her dress gothic, punk and skater. not one. but all three. the most three rebelious groups of ‘the teen’. remember not just one but ALL. coincidence? i think not. she is nothing but A pOsEr!!! the words above as proof. oh yes and i’ve seen her all preppied up. "not another Britney Spears" ? maybe just a wanna be of everything teens think are ‘cool’. Avril, you LOSER!!!

    #61 | Comment by Dec6b — May 10, 2003 @ 11:40 pm

  62. uR a KeWl KiD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #62 | Comment by thess — May 13, 2003 @ 6:31 am

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