Beating on a Dead Horse

It’s been a very long time since I last posted. I’ll admit my first two posts were not tremendously successful. My first post was some sort of rediculous limerick, if I remember correctly. The second one was a broadly generalized categorization of males (which may or may not make me look like a hypocrite later… frankly I don’t care). Looking back on both of those, they were pretty big mistakes that not only made me look like a complete jackass, but the latter entry was probably insulting to most of the guys surfing this site [that care]. Hopefully this third entry doesn’t bring me off as too idiotic. If it’s any comfort, in the future I promise to post something lighthearted and tame like some funny joke I heard somewhere or a random review of something, and leave the serious, scary posts to the more experienced among us.

I haven’t come back to F.U.B.A.R. in a long time, and I really have no idea what the hell is going on around here. I probably shouldn’t even be butting into “other people’s business,” but I have to say that I stumbled across Amy’s most recent post and read through it. Yes, boys, the entire thing. I didn’t read Eve’s rant first, though, and at the time of writing this I still haven’t. I suppose that would be important if I started an arguement, but hey, I don’t really plan to.

The thing I paid the most attention to was the comments following Amy’s entry. God, it’s been a long time. I had forgotten about a lot of the soap opera-like rivalries and alliances around here. I’m sure Justin’s digging it. Whenever there is controversy, he sits back and watches the action. But I digress.

I guess the reason that I decided to post (beside, you know, the fact that I haven’t done it in a while) is to comment on Amy’s post and the comments to that post. I don’t know. I guess I was inspired.

Let’s not even pretend that I’m the smartest person here. I wouldn’t even presume to be as good at backing up any arguements I may have as someone like Amy, or Eve, or especially Discommode, whatever his real name is. This may be a good reason for you to stop reading right now. How could you take someone seriously when they themselves say that they’re probably not smart enough to listen to?

My view on the whole “sex” arguement is simple: who fucking cares? Who really gives a damn? The smart people, the REALLY smart people that view this page, that read the entries… they’re the ones that say things like, “I’ll read it later, I swear.” Or, “Amy, I wanna hump you.” If you want to know why I think these people are smarter, it’s because they really don’t give a shit. Their lives are less complicated and happier because they have much better things to be pissed off and worked up about. I myself get more pissed off at things that directly affect me, not something as lofty as how people do or don’t like their sex. I know how I like it. That’s enough for me. I don’t even care to share with anyone, and I would certainly not try to tell people how they should like it. And certainly not why they should like it their own way or anyone else’s.

For the feminists in the audience that are gasping because a woman apparently doesn’t care about all the blood, sweat, and tears that have gone into the freedoms and equality with men we share today: I’d just like to say that I’m not a feminist, but I’m not a feminist basher. The term “feminist” nowadays, more often than not, brings to mind a bunch of women with lots of body hair, burning their unmentionables, screaming about the evils of men, touting the virtues of the dildo, and spelling women, “womyn.” You’d avoid that, too. I appreciate all of the amenities I now enjoy because of feminists. I personally hate wearing skirts, I like being able to vote, and I’m glad that men don’t automatically expect me to know how to cook, clean, sew, and rear children. And before you ladies have a heart attack and die, I KNOW there’s more to it than that.

You know what I think? I think men should start their own movement. Call it Masculinism or something. Men have rights, too. I see so many cases where men get screwed, it’s disgusting. Fathers in this country have practically no rights regarding their children. How often, really, do you hear of cases of divorce where the father is awarded custody for any other reason than having a lot more money than the mother (except in cases where the mother is a heroin addict or some crap)? And don’t even get me started on the Armed Forces. I say, if you’re a woman and you want to be in the military, don’t expect to do any less than the men do. Don’t pout and fuss because you want to play with the boys, and then expect to play with different rules.

I forget which of you said it, but yes, arguing over the internet is pretty stupid. No doubt about it. I probably wouldn’t even be typing this right now if it weren’t for the fact that 1) I’m very bored, 2) I can’t sleep, and 3) I’m feeling pretty stupid right now. I guess some people argue just for the sake of debate. We have to match wits against eachother. Prove who’s smarter than who. Who agrees with what. I admit that some of the points made were very valid, but come on: is it worth attacking a person’s character? I admit some of you are genuinely, without a doubt, very intelligent: but really, you could focus your intelligence into something incredibly positive. People that concentrate so much on the fact that they’re “smarter than everyone else” either have a chip on their shoulder or are very, very lonely and/or depressed. And that’s just my humble opinion.

I forget which other person said it (was it Discommode?), but arguing from the feminist standpoint about sex and gender roles is also stupid. I’m not even going to say, “I guess it’s an important issue,” because really, it’s not. If it’s being discussed in terms of “fucking” then it’s about recreation, and as far as “fun” goes you’d have a much less moot debate about bowling leagues or chess tournaments. As far as regarding sex as either “filthy,” “scary,” or “beautiful”, that’s one person’s personal choice based on the way they were raised, religion, personal values, ect., and no amount of bitching is going to change that person’s mind.

It’s been done to death, really, and it’s just one of those things that you can go round and round about it forever and never get anywhere.

If a tree falls in the forest, and there’s no one around to hear it, does it make a sound?

Who fucking cares?

39 thoughts on “Beating on a Dead Horse

  1. Yes.

    #1 | Comment by Kingolf — September 9, 2003 @ 11:47 pm

  2. Amy what kinda movies do you have in your porn collection? I don’t know any intellectual porn…

    #2 | Comment by WP — September 10, 2003 @ 1:14 am

  3. Damn I’ve read a lot in the last week. I like limericks…..and boobs.

    #3 | Comment by bligityblah — September 10, 2003 @ 1:53 am

  4. meow meow, you need to stop discrediting yourself every other sentence in your writing.

    you have a lot of good points, interesting thoughts, and justin thought you were cool enough to post. so there is no need to constantly question your writing or your intelligence…

    it doesn’t matter why you post or what you post. and you don’t hafta justify it to anyone either.

    wear your posts proudly, sistah! (insert other various forms of womyn loving comments here)

    #4 | Comment by lizzie — September 10, 2003 @ 2:26 am

  5. Hrm… I kind of like the discrediting. It’s a self defense mechanism that subconsciously prevents the readers from getting too agitated. It kind of turns me on too…

    #5 | Comment by embus — September 10, 2003 @ 2:47 am

  6. Yeah, the Internet is full of tired bullshit in general. Alot of shit no-one cares about, arguing for the sake of arguing. Its just how it is. Some people think its funny, others take it seriously, most sit back and think about how pointless it is.

    #6 | Comment by Dugas of eenodol — September 10, 2003 @ 3:08 am

  7. …and to think, for the time it took all of us (yes, myself included) it took to write about this sex rant/discussion/intellectual excercise we could all have gone out and gotten laid…


    #7 | Comment by Jimmy Knuckles — September 10, 2003 @ 3:10 am

  8. Either you read slow or fuck fast.

    I like to run with a banner, I don’t really care what it says on it.

    #8 | Comment by Seriously — September 10, 2003 @ 3:49 am

  9. I felt this was as good of time as any to comment. Ive been lurking on this site for over a year now and i have always enjoyed the rants and random boob pics that are posted here. After reading all 3 posts (yes i did read them all) i have come to the conclusion that each one of you brings up many valid points.But at the same time each one of us has our own opinion on this and we should just leave it there. As human beings we are entitled to our own thoughts and ideals and we need to learn to respect each other, not because we agree with them but because we have the same right to express ourselves as they do. Just because i may not agree with someones ideas dosent mean that the idea should not be heard.

    #9 | Comment by Bucky54 — September 10, 2003 @ 4:15 am

  10. Aren’t you sort of contradicting your self in this post? You ask "Who fucking cares?" but yet you feel the need to write a post that rivals Amy’s and Eve’s posts length wise. From the looks of it I would think that you care. Or maybe I’m wrong.

    #10 | Comment by WhoaMan — September 10, 2003 @ 7:07 am

  11. That was pretty long, huh? I guess once I read "I’ll read it later, I swear." I was hooked. I thought to myself: "I am the smartest man alive!" That’s about it. I couldn’t think of anything else…

    "you have a lot of good points, interesting thoughts, and justin thought you were cool enough to post. so there is no need to constantly question your writing or your intelligence… "

    Well, Justin also thought you were cool enough to post… BOY, WAS HE WRONG!(I kid…sort of.)

    Oh, and this: "Either you read slow or fuck fast.

    I like to run with a banner, I don’t really care what it says on it.

    Posted by Seriously – 3:49am September 10, 2003"

    I just like to copy/paste, and thought that was funny. Nyahahhaa!

    #11 | Comment by Bubba — September 10, 2003 @ 8:17 am

  12. I was just going to say "I’ll read it later, I swear", because by your definition that would make me a really smart person.

    But that joke is obvious and lame, so I won’t do it.

    I enjoyed your post.

    I don’t think there’s anyone who hangs around here could possibly take themselves too seriously. Obviously, I’m not looking to change the world in between talking about sex with Disney characters. I just like my frivolous porn spiked with intellectual exercises.

    Arguing on the Internet is only stupid if you really think you’re going to accomplish something or change anyone’s mind. I do it because I like the sound of my own keyboard.

    I’m a narcissist, not an idiot.

    #12 | Comment by Amy — September 10, 2003 @ 12:13 pm

  13. I read the post, and I think the first three comments. The rest I may or may not read later.

    I’m just commenting to share a funny (and sexist, I know, but I think everyone can take a joke) version of the tree falling in the forest question. So here it is.

    If a man says something, and there are no women around to hear him, is he still wrong?

    #13 | Comment by Alexhawker — September 10, 2003 @ 4:01 pm

  14. Thefelinepunk – I’m not sure why, but until this post, I always thought you and lizzie/disappointedidealist were one and the same. Show’s how well I pay attention.

    The funny thing is: One of you I don’t like. Now I don’t know which one it is. I remember the other lizzie liked REM which is huge kudos in my book, and your post here wasn’t bad, so I can’t make up my mind.

    Seriously, your post is hitting the points I tried to make near the end of Amy’s comment section. I come here to relax and enjoy the comments/posts. I comment on an intellictual topic if it strikes my interest (yes, I love to talk)but to expect a full blown, formal debate, or to even change ANYONE’s mind is ludicrous. The best I hope for is someone I don’t agree with much to pipe up with "I agree with smash" once in a while.

    DVD reviews are good. Boobies are better. No matter what, Bubba is still going to be funny in that almost annoying way. 🙂

    #14 | Comment by smash — September 10, 2003 @ 5:25 pm

  15. "I’m a narcissist, not an idiot." – Amy

    Amy, dear, honestly, if in any way you believe that I called you an idiot, I apologize. That was not my intent. I am but a simple pussycat. I don’t set out to attack people.


    #15 | Comment by thefelinepunk — September 10, 2003 @ 7:56 pm

  16. better watch your ass if you’re a mouse though.

    #16 | Comment by Charles — September 10, 2003 @ 8:15 pm

  17. Or a man wearing eyeliner.

    #17 | Comment by Kingolf — September 10, 2003 @ 8:34 pm

  18. I’ve found that if I squeeze hard enough, I can make a stone bleed.

    Obviously I read the title, so it’s not a personal attack.

    What is it?

    It’s a sign.

    #18 | Comment by Seriously — September 11, 2003 @ 8:36 am

  19. feline —

    I agree with Lizzie, there’s no need to apologize. I didn’t think you were calling me an idiot. But you could if you wanted to. Honestly, I don’t mind, as long as my name is in there somewhere.

    I’m ridiculously self-obsessed. I blame society.

    #19 | Comment by Amy — September 11, 2003 @ 9:41 am

  20. Smash –

    I love REM. As a matter of fact, they’re doing a show around here soon and I’m getting tickets. W00t (whatever that means)!

    #20 | Comment by thefelinepunk — September 11, 2003 @ 10:40 am

  21. No! You’re not supposed to reply to smash after I told you I’m self-obsessed! Me, damn it, me!

    Fuck REM!

    #21 | Comment by Amy — September 11, 2003 @ 10:45 am

  22. Hehehe.

    #22 | Comment by thefelinepunk — September 11, 2003 @ 11:19 am

  23. I enjoyed the post and I like thefelinepunk in a truly unique online sorta way.

    can I say I saw the colour of Cherry 7up today? I normally drink straight from the can, as only a real man can, but I canned that idea in favour of a glass, and yes, it’s almost pink.

    Pink. You do understand I will never be drinking Cherry 7 up again?
    You just don’t expect a man to drink pink soda.

    #23 | Comment by Discommode — September 11, 2003 @ 11:31 am

  24. Mr. Ed, I stabbath thee!

    #24 | Comment by bligityblah — September 11, 2003 @ 12:28 pm

  25. Ha! How many of YOU can say you’ve been COMPLIMENTED by Discommode? Mmm?

    I didn’t think so.

    I shall continue to gloat.

    #25 | Comment by thefelinepunk — September 11, 2003 @ 12:46 pm

  26. I’ve been complimented by Disco quite a few times. Hardy fucking har har harrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!! Because I do indeed rocket hard….seriously….I do.

    #26 | Comment by Bubba — September 11, 2003 @ 1:54 pm

  27. Okay, well, Bubba and I then. Which is fine.

    So, WE shall gloat.

    #27 | Comment by thefelinepunk — September 11, 2003 @ 2:13 pm

  28. Who the hell would want to be complimented by Discommode.

    #28 | Comment by smash — September 11, 2003 @ 5:23 pm

  29. I actually don’t have any interest in cam girl.

    But thanks for thinking of me. (And, more importantly, typing my name. Naturally.)

    #29 | Comment by Amy — September 12, 2003 @ 1:13 am

  30. Alright, stop stealing my gimmick Amy.

    As for the Disco man….he’s just plain funny. I can’t comprehend that you people can’t see, the funny that is he.

    #30 | Comment by Bubba — September 12, 2003 @ 1:30 am

  31. Bubba, I would never intentionally pilfer your gimmick. Besides, you’ve got that whole "funny" thing happening. I don’t have a sense of humor.

    Truthfully, as a narcissist/masochist with an addictive personality, I should really just stay off the Internet.

    #31 | Comment by Amy — September 12, 2003 @ 1:49 am

  32. I bet Eve would love to be my barefoot, pregnant wife.
    At least you’d be serving a purpose.
    I need an heir to my genetic fortune.

    And fräulein Eve you better hope you birth a son right quick, because ill knock you up again and again until you get the right gender.

    #32 | Comment by Discommode — September 12, 2003 @ 2:43 am

  33. Aw geez, you guys are too funny. Aw geez.

    #33 | Comment by Serioulsy — September 12, 2003 @ 9:24 am

  34. The only compliment discommode is possible of is : "You would look good in my kitchen, chain around your ankle, barefoot and pregnant."

    I think Amy is a good candidate for a cam girl, considering she just can’t get enough of her name being used. Like Meg.

    #34 | Comment by eve — September 12, 2003 @ 12:26 pm

  35. i disagree, eve. disco’s compliments are just as vicious as his insults… and amy is way too suspect to be a cam girl. i’d hate to see her lose that.

    #35 | Comment by lizzie — September 12, 2003 @ 12:52 pm

  36. toiletbitch: if i was ever forced to carry your child i would abort it and feed it to you in a beef stew laced with rat poison.

    #36 | Comment by eve — September 12, 2003 @ 4:05 pm

  37. I am glad you concede youd have to cook and feed me if that were the case.
    What you don’t know is I like sex after dinner, and I have medical advice that whatever I eat would probably be part of my sexual fluids, so I don’t think you’d want to provide foetal beef poison stew ala rodent, especially as your oft quoted rant inferred you love to swallow.

    #37 | Comment by Discommode — September 12, 2003 @ 10:09 pm

  38. lol. yay discommode. lol.

    on the topic of soda.
    anyone ever had Jones Soda? yay jones soda. yay.

    *drinks some*


    #38 | Comment by connect n0w — September 14, 2003 @ 4:38 am

  39. If you have enough balls to post it you deserve to be heard.
    Exchanging ideas, every kind of them, is what made us evolve in the first place.

    #39 | Comment by Roadmaster — November 21, 2003 @ 9:12 am

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