Libby Hoeller: The Complete Story
7 04 2002Well okay, not really COMPLETE complete but pretty close. Or maybe not. All i’m doing is really just throwing together every bit of information other people have gathered about Elizabeth Hoeller, otherwise known as Libby Hoeller, onto one page.
Because i’m bored and i have nothing else better to do. So for those of you who don’t know, this is BASICALLY how the story goes:
Chick has boyfriend. Chick makes videos of herself doing a striptease for boyfriend. Somewhere along the lines, chick cheats on boyfriend. Boyfriend gets pissed. Boyfriend send videos to EVERYONE. Videos somehow get onto P2P file sharing servers (Morpheus/Kazaa etc etc). And everything else after that… is a mystery.
You’ve probably heard different takes on the whole Libby Hoeller story. What’s true? And what’s not? I can’t tell you what exactly happened (because i don’t really know myself) but i can show you what other people (who claim to have first hand information about her) have said.
I’ve recently had my eyes opened wide and starry by an amazing video starring a girl called Libby Hoeler. Apparently she went to University of Wisconsin and made these home videos with her webcam for her boyfriend who was away. Like I said, they were for her boyfriend’s eyes only. Something must have happened between the two of them because he leaked the clips with her name, address and phone number genlocked at the start. Before long, they had circulated far and wide and poor Libby Hoeler became an involuntary internet legend. There are supposedly 10 or so clips in circulation, and the one I watched is called “The Complete Libby Hoeler.mpg” even though it is only a merge of 5 of them. They all have sound and she sings as she dances to a various songs.
I am a strong advocate for the “some things should remain sacred” school of thought. Nothing the girl did to him could have justified his actions. I started feeling pissed off on her behalf when watching it. It was so personal and here it was for the world to see. What really made me mad was the way she kept pointing to the camera everytime the word “you” came up in the song lyics. (eg. “i love YOU”, “… for YOU”, etc). She ended each clip by blowing a kiss at the camera. Her jerk of a boyfriend sure didn’t deserve her. He apparently received a 12 month jail sentence, mild consolation for Libby who probably had her life ruined.
That’s the dominant story in my crude search engine investigations. Another theory was that her bf’s roommate found and released the clips.
I probably should have stopped watching as soon as i realized what the clip was and who it was meant for and you’re probably wondering why I didn’t. I did say earlier in this post that the video was amazing and indeed it was. I do not exaggerate.
posted by Devante Swing at 12:15 PM
Jail?
“VERY nice to see Elizabeth “Libby” Hoeller is so prominent in the news. Her story was the one taking place in Wisconsin, and the original videos posted of her have her name, address and phone number in the beginning. What a sick ex-boyfriend, he didn’t need to do that. Good thing he ended up getting a 12-moth prison sentence out of it.
Cheers.”
Is this true? Did he really go to jail? Apparently not:
as a first hand source i just wanted to let you know that libby’s boyfriend did not receive any kind of jail sentence. he also did not put her name and address on the videos. that happened later after they had been circulating for a few weeks.
Posted by madison student - 10:38am December 5, 2001
Here’s another take on it.
to whom it may concern:
i know libby hoeller’s ex-boyfriend… videos got uploaded accidentally… were in his download folder, and people uploaded it over Scour back in the day… he did not get a 12 month prison sentance… he is alive and well, attending university of indiana, highly amused by it… they broke up but maintained a sex relationship for seven more months…
Posted by Raul Duke - 3:27pm December 24, 2001
Somebody once wrote something about Libby in my guestbook. Saying:
Comments: Those movies are not Libby. Some ass thought it would be funny to rename some porno movies that he had found on a now defunct web site in sweden and pass them around her campus. Needless to say it is not funny. I am sure you can figure out how horrible something like this would be for a person. If not, ask any of the girls who visit your web site what they would think if something like this happeneed to them. Please just call them some chick dancing or something instead of using a name. Someone has to start this, and I’m hoping it is you.
Yeah okay dude. Whatever.
Anyway, here are two e-mails from two students who’re from University of Wisconsin Madison (where the videos originated from) that pretty much prove that this all really did happen and isn’t just some hoax or myth.
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 17:34:44 -0600
From: xxxxx@students.wisc.edu
Subject: libby hoelerhey. i came across your site after searching google for libby hoeler, i was bored. anyway, as a student at UW madison i could tell you what i know of her and the story. her real name is elizabeth heller. she is a sophomore now but was a freshman living in university housing when it happened. she lived in sellery hall, i was living across the street in witte hall where one of her good friends lived on my floor. the story i heard from him is that she made them for her boyfriend who was at college in milwaukee. she cheated on him and he found out, and he sent them to her parents, her grandparents, all her friends whose email addresses he knew and naturally they ended up on morpheus and kazaa. i dont know much else about it, i personally dont know her other than seeing her at a few parties.
And one more:
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 20:41:59 -0600
From: xxxx@students.wisc.edu
Subject: Libby HoellerHi,
Yes, the story is true. Of course, we knew about it about a year and a half ago. It happened sometime at the beginning of the 00-01 school year in Sellery Hall. It was funny; we even looked her up in the student directory. She lived about 3 doors down from where I used to live, but she was long gone by the time the pictures were distributed (and everyone tried to contact her). But yes, it is true. And if I have any credibility on this subject at all, it should be from my wisc.edu email address. Heh.
Update:
A little update on the Libby Hoeller story. A reader of mine sent this in. I’ll let him do the talking:
To: psykotik@gmail.com
Subject: Libby Hoeller/Heller… whatever.
From: “Liquid” liquid@***.net
Date: Sun, Apr 14 2002 2:04:57 AM -0700Justin –
So I’m reading your rants, and I happen to be unusually entertained by them. Ok. Not unusually. More like its the fucking status quo. Never mind that tho.
When I read your little “synopsis” on Mrs. Hoeller/Heller/Whatever, I recalled that one of the posts mentioned that her name/address was put at the beginning of the now quite infamous strip-cams. I also remember thinking that it sounded more like web-lore than anything else. No one would possible know this sort of crap one way or another in the vast sludge known as the internet. However, I recently deleted my libby-’stash’ by accident, and started looking for suitable replacements, when it seems that I actually ran across a version that still had the name in the opening. I enclosed a .jpg just for kicks. Not sure if you care, but what the hell. I thought it was sort of surprising, and anything I can do to further your research into the hoeller-case.
Like I said, I thought that part of the story would HAVE to be bullshit.
I guess not.
Best,
Chris
I guess it wouldn’t hurt to post it up here. Since i’m sure she’s not living there anymore.
Okay. Now i’m slightly confused. Is it Hoeller? Or Heller? Because according to one of the two UWM students up there, her last name is Heller. And according to the other, she lived in Sellery Hall. But in the screenshot, it says Hoeler. Not Heller. The Sellery thing checks out though. That seems to be true. But as for her name, which is it? Hoeler or Heller?
Does anybody know? (Does anybody even care??)
The videos in question:
And that’s… all that i have on Libby Hoeler.
University of Wisconsin Madison… wow. If only that kinda stuff happened here at Western Michigan University…
Actually… it has.
I have two short videos of some chick that goes to WMU fingering herself. Got em from this dude that i know from this other dorm here at Western. Click on the link for more.
18/3/02 12:32 AM
xxxxxxxxx: yo
psykotik2k: yo
xxxxxxxxx: check this out
xxxxxxxxx: its a delta zeta from WMU fingerin her self
xxxxxxxxx: good stuf
xxxxxxxxx: i just wanna see her one day and be like hey dont i know you from some where
psykotik2k: WOO
psykotik2k: where’d you get this dude?
psykotik2k: haha
psykotik2k: all i see is ass
psykotik2k: do you get to see her face
psykotik2k: whoops. spoke too soon
xxxxxxxxx: ya
xxxxxxxxx: one of my buddys
psykotik2k: you sure she’s from here?
xxxxxxxxx: she realy goes her i guess
xxxxxxxxx: cause someone knows her
xxxxxxxxx: she is a delta zeta
psykotik2k: haha. man, this is like some libby hoeler sorta shit
xxxxxxxxx: for rill but million times beter
psykotik2k: oh yeah
psykotik2k: she looks older
xxxxxxxxx: but she goes here thats what makes it beter
psykotik2k: haha
xxxxxxxxx: plus she looks beter
psykotik2k: so her name’s tiffany?
xxxxxxxxx: i guess
xxxxxxxxx: i am gunna see if i can find pics of her
xxxxxxxxx: with cloths on
psykotik2k: haha. from where?
xxxxxxxxx: dz websites
psykotik2k: geez. she’s got a loose pussy man
xxxxxxxxx: ya
xxxxxxxxx: the second one
psykotik2k: she’s been around. haha
xxxxxxxxx: camel toe like woah
psykotik2k: hahaha
xxxxxxxxx: she must must be in a dorm with comunity bathrooms
xxxxxxxxx: bigelow or somthin like that
xxxxxxxxx: cause thats the room style at bigelow
psykotik2k: hmm.. lemme have another look
xxxxxxxxx: it looks just like the rooms in nigelow
xxxxxxxxx: haha
xxxxxxxxx: bigelow
psykotik2k: when was this?
psykotik2k: when’d this happen?
xxxxxxxxx: prety resently i guess
xxxxxxxxx: not sure ill ask my roomie when he gets back
psykotik2k: yep. that’s from somewhere in wmu all right. the walls in the vids are the same as mine. haha
psykotik2k: big blocks
xxxxxxxxx: yup
psykotik2k: i wonder if i’ll get in trouble if i post this up at my site. hahaha
The DZ videos can be found here
UPDATES:
Update:
Update:
Update:
Update:
Libby’s Mom/Aunt (?) e-mails me. She’s a lawyer!
Taken from: this post.
Dear webmaster:
I am the attorney for Elizabeth Hoeller (aka Libby Hoeler and Libby Heller) and I ask that you immediately delete all reference to her or her story in your web content. I will give you until 5:00 p.m. e.s.t on December 15, 2003 to do so. If I check your web site and determine that information about Elizabeth Hoeller is still on your site, I will file the appropriate complaints and advise my client of her right for further legal action against you.
Mary J. Hoeller
Of Counsel
White & Raub, LLP
36 South Pennsylvania Street
700 Century Building
Indianapolis, IN 46204Telephone: 317 633 4000 ext. 254
Fax: 317 633 1499
email: mary@attorneyhoeller.com
Web: http://www.attorneyhoeller.com
So, i got e-mailed by Libby’s laywer/mom(?). Probably the worst laywer ever. She actually left a comment on the site threatening to press charges or something. And you’d think that she’d have the sense to leave that comment on the offending post itself but nooo, she left it on one the older Libby posts from way back in December 2001. At first i thought that it was just a prank. In fact, i was almost certain that it was because of all the bad spelling. Some guy even left a comment after that saying something to the extent of “Boy, for a lawyer, you sure don’t know how to spell”.
In addition to leaving a comment, the lawyer actually did e-mail me. But for some reason, her e-mails never reached my inbox properly. It got buried with all the other September e-mails, even though she sent the e-mails in December. I say “e-mails” because she sent me the same e-mail twice.
Why? Well, if you look closely at the e-mail above, you’ll see her telling me to get rid of the Libby stuff by December 15th, 2003. She corrected herself the second time around though but what the hell. I’m just gonna disregard her second e-mail and leave the Libby stuff online anyway. Besides, she can’t really do that. It’s not like i even have the videos hosted on my site. I don’t even have any pictures of Libby on here. And what pictures there are in this post are hosted on another site. I only linked to them. Why doesn’t she just go after that site instead of mine? What happened to Freedom of Speech?
Of course, i could be wrong and she could probably sue the pants off of me and i could probably get thrown in jail or something but hey, if i’m wrong, you’d tell me right? And then i’ll just take down the post. But for now, i’m just gonna leave it up.
I will give you until 5:00 p.m. e.s.t on December 15, 2003 to do so.
Update:
New Libby news via e-mail.
To: psykotik@gmail.com
Subject: libby hoeller, alive and well
From: “mazaru monkey”
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 02:21:55 +0000her birthday was a few days ago… she was at a bar in madison here’s a pic of her taken just a few days ago (the one on the right ;) http://www.niggaswithpuppets.com/braddansamlibby.jpg
she’s apparently doing fine…and still in madison too.
(Image mirror in case original pic is taken down)
Update:
New e-mail that sort of confirms the address posted in the comments?
From: xxxxxxxx@shatow.net
Sent: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:55:50 -0800
To: psykotik@gmail.com
Subject: Libby HoellerI work at a Debt Collection agency, and after finding your site this morning, decided to look her up.
Forgetting that her address was listed here (/archives/444) I managed to find her social security number and address.Address:
219 N BASSETT ST APT 3
MADISON WI 53703Sadly, that is the only address associated with the SSN, says it is current, but the database is not perfect. It is likely she moved away and hasn’t been using her name/ssn for shit.
I guess this is really all old information.
I can lookup that ‘lawyer’ who emailed you if you want. Just let me know.
I’m anonymous as well. :)
Update:
To: psykotik@gmail.com
Subject: I think you’ll like this.
From: d.s.
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 19:06:22 +0000Hi Justin,
I recently discovered your website and I gotta say, I fucking love it. I too love boobs…two guys who love boobs, what are the odds. Seriously though, I think I have found something of interest for you. After surfing your site and learning about the Libby Hoeller chick (yes, I did not know about her) I became determined to find out her whereabouts. Well after a grueling 5 minutes, I think I hit paydirt. Here’s what I found:
Elizabeth Hoeller
100 E. Franklin St.
Jefferson City, MO 65101-2732
Tel : 1-573-636-8133Now I’m not sure if it is her, but it was the only Elizabeth Margerat Hoeller I found, so it is most likely her. I leave the verification up to you.
Thanks
D. S.
Update:
LIBBY HOELLER COMMITS SUICIDE?
Update:
Libby Hoeller Personal Sighting!!
Update:
Libby Hoeller update!!
And that’s all i’ve got. More misc. info can be found in the comments section before.
well, since nobody else is going to say anything:
justin, your link to these new videos doesn’t work. i read through all of that, got all excited about seeing some new chick, and then the link didn’t even work. i’m so dissappointed.
oh sure, NOW it works… thank you, justin… :)
I am some dude, and i just would like to say MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
that is all
Hey good to see you back…you tool. (lol)
Lookin fwd to you site
i found your page because of libby hoeller…..doesnt that make you feel special….you knew this anyway…..it was like 8 months ago and im still here……..whats that tell you
Does anybody know if the Elizabeth M. Hoeller of the videos the same Elizabeth M. Hoeller whose name shows up on the Divine Savior Holy Angels High School website? The school is located in Milwaukee Wisconsin and the award ceremony this Elizabeth M. Hoeller took part in occured in 1998. If you want to check out the website the address is http://www.dsha.k12.wi.us/honors1998c.htm
Later
Sorry about the grammer- I meant:
Does anybody know if the Elizabeth M. Hoeller of the videos is the same Elizabeth M. Hoeller whose name shows up on the Divine Savior Holy Angels High School website? The school is located in Milwaukee Wisconsin and the award ceremony this Elizabeth M. Hoeller took part in occured in 1998. If you want to check out the website the address is http://www.dsha.k12.wi.us/honors1998c.htm
Simply do a search on the page for ‘Elizabeth’, its about 1/2 way down. Wouldn’t that be something if it was the same chick and she was a Catholic school girl!
i have a 56k and it downloads fine, it just takes about a half hour to an hour
I think libby hoeler is damn fine and if i were her man i wouldn’t have lived so far away, thats his bad. bitter fuck. anyways, i wish i could marry her and have her dance for me every night. Sick yes, twisted, a little, do i care…fuck nah.
ya, i saw the video when my little brother was on morpheus for a porno raid. i just read this, and saw the screenshots of the movie, and i realized i have seen that before. that’s a really sad story tho, that must blow to get ur private happy dance out on the internet for anyone to see it…
To clue everyone in Libby Hoeller did graduate from Devine Savior Holy Angel in Milwaukee and attended the University of Wisconsin Madison where she sent these videos to her boyfriend who went to the University of Wisconsin Milwaukee. She hooked up with another guy and like all high school couples who go off to college broke up after a couple months. He was angry because he wasn’t getting any so he sent the videos only a few with her address to friends and they put them up on Scour which then got transfered around to the Guntella network to where it is today. She transfered to a different school a small school in Wisconsin where she lives. I know Libby becuse I went to summer camp with her when I was younger and one of my best friends is a family friend. No one dares bring this up in front of her or some of her friends. She is a really nice girl and did not deserve this.
The dude from drunk university must be right b/c I did another search on the Devine Savior Holy Angle website and found a reference to "Libby Hoeller" on this page:
http://www.dsha.k12.wi.us/Math/tessell.htm
Notice that the date on the page is 1998- consistent with her approximate age and the date on the honors page on Devine Savior Holy Angle website also. So this must be her.
Here’s another 1998 link from the high school sight that refers to Elizabeth M. Hoeller as Libby Hoeller.
http://www.dsha.k12.wi.us/Math/tessell.htm
Hey that’s a nice blue birds by her, don’t you think? I think this "painting" can be sold for good money. Well, poor Libby. But look, first of all she dances and masturbates and do toys on cameras, then she cheats on her boyfriends - is she really a victim? maybe she was asking for that.
honestly, I think libby hoeller is an all right looking girl but i do love that little dance she done
I sent this to everybody who graduated in 94-00 from the Divine Holy Angle High School via the alumni page:
Hi,
My name is Chris Spirito and I got your name off the Divine Holy Angle School’s website. I was hoping you could give me some information on a Elizabeth or Libby Hoeller and tell me if she went to school with you. I’m trying to get a hold of this person so I can interview them for my school’s paper and website. Apparently a girl named Elizabeth Hoeller made some webcam videos that caught the interest of 1000’s of people online and I wanted to track her down and ask her some questions about them and what she thinks of all the attention she has received over them. Any help would be welcomed and I thank you for taking the time to read this.
Sincerely,
Chris Spirito
If I hear anything back from any of the student or get a year book pic or something I’ll be sure to inform you all of my findings and post information on my website.
If Libby/Elizabeth went to that school she was rather forgettable to say the least as 6 people already responded to my emails from the class of 97 and 98 and had never heard of her. Here are a few of the emails.
"Dear Chris,
Unfortunately, I do not know Elizabeth or Libby Hoeller. Sorry I cannot
be of help.
Stacey Armstrong"
"To Chris,
I have not heard of either of those two girls. I graduated from DSHA in 1997 and they don’t even ring a bell as a name from another class. Sorry I could not be of any assistance to you.
Kathleen Haines"
"I do not know of a Libby Hoeller.
Sorry!!
Elana Rubin"
"Sorry I have no idea who that is. I wish I could have been of some service!
Lauren Hartmann"
But with all that said on the school’s site is a girl that shares the same name as the webcam mystry girl so maybe somebody will remember her. I emailed 109 people so somebodies gotta know something.
Chris
I got conformation today she went to that school. A very upset student from that school emailed me this letter saying I was a "twisted sick-o" for wanting information on her. Here’s the email.
I cant believe the insensitivity and lack of integrity
that a person in journalism, such as yourself, could
have. So much to the point that I hardly believe that
you are. No doubt you are simply some pervert wanting
to meet her to fulfill some kind of sick twisted
fantasy or fetish, as this "news" you so describe is
over a year old. What kind of school newspaper or
website would want content on pornography, such as
this? No school that I know of. Please dont think I
am so naive as to believe you for one second.
What happened with libby is old, hopefully she has
been able to resume a somewhat respectable life
afterwards. May you have nothing but the utmost
trouble finding any information on her, as she tries
to recover from such a traumatizing ordeal.
Jamie Seiberlich class of 1999
Well that proves she went to that school although I doubt she was popular as over a dozen people emailed me saying they never heard of her. One nice gal is gonna check her yearbook for me and if she finds a pic is gonna scan it for me. If I get one I will post a link here to it on my site.
Chris
Libby Hoeller is from Glendale, Wisconsin! Read the following story from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel in 1998- her name appear almost at the end:
HEADLINE: Don’t count out the girls just yet
DSHA students dispute study that says they trail boys in computer skills
BYLINE: GARY RUMMLER
SOURCE: Journal Sentinel staff
BODY:
Screamed the headline: "Girls left behind in learning to use computers."
Screamed Emily Grum: "Behind boys? I don’t think so."
Steamed Rebecca Kolaga: "I think we’re equal or even more advanced."
Jane Duffy offered proof.
At her job last summer, she said with a smile or was it a smirk:
"I taught some of the guys." That, she continued and this time it was a smirk "was a lot of fun." The three were among 11 Divine Savio r Holy Angels High School students all eager to refute that statement while sitting in a former study hall being transformed into a lecture hall with a sloped floor, an 8-by-8-foot screen, six speakers and electricity to each row of desks that will a llow students to take notes on laptops.
And that’s just part of the $800,000 technological update at DSHA and just part of the reason why these students at the all-girls high school on Milwaukee’s far west side insisted that they own the Internet.
So does Betty Jo Azpell, head of the school’s science department, who added her two beakers worth: "I think our girls will be the leading scientists in the city of Milwaukee."
It doesn’t hurt their chances that all sci ence work stations not only have water and gas outlets, but computer hookups as well. That, the girls say, is worth another high-five.
The study behind the headline was commissioned by the American Association of University Women, which c omplained that not only do more boys take computer science classes than girls, but the classes girls take tend to be more basic kind of the computer-era version of typing.
"Technology is now the new boys club in our nation’s public schoo ls," said Janice Weinman, executive director of the association.
Paul Stamm, DSHA technology coordinator, agreed that there could be a gender problem because "even in an ideal classroom, boys tend to take over."
DSHA students will buy that part of the study.
"I went to a coed school before I came here, and in class the boys dominated questions or they goofed off, and those who wanted to learn couldn’t because the teacher was spending time disciplining," said B ridget Fetters, a freshman from Wauwatosa.
"Here," she added, "there’s no distraction, and we have more time for learning."
Fetters also said that in coed schools, teachers tend to give boys an advantage by "calling on boys more than girls."
But again, said Libby Hoeller, a junior from Glendale, "here we learn to be individuals and do things for ourselves."
"We have a good technology department, and it’s all focused on girls," emphasized Grum, a freshm an from Brookfield.
At coed schools, said Kolaga, a freshman from Brookfield, "The focus is on what they are going to do on weekends."
But the other part of the study that girls are content with basic classes needs to be reboo ted, the students said.
At DSHA, basic keyboarding classes are required to make sure students have the basics, but then, said Maren Szollar, a freshman from Brookfield, "You are expected to do stuff on the computer in every single class."
It’s that constant demand, added Katie Koss, a junior from Milwaukee, "that really helps you become familiar with what’s out there."
"I know a lot of other students are surprised about what we do and what we do with technology," said Stephanie Stadler, a senior from Brookfield.
Liz Nuccio, a freshman from New Berlin, agreed.
When she tells her friends what DSHA students do on computers, "They say, wow, you do that much?"
Anne Simon, a junio r from Milwaukee, said her friends who go to public schools don’t even seem to be aware of the environmental issues she studies in her science labs.
DSHA students are so deeply into computer use that Melinda Cherwin, a senior from Mequon, said assignments in advanced placement history are e-mailed to the teacher.
Duffy, a junior from Germantown, said that kind of experience turns DSHA students into tutors for others not students who need tutoring. Personally, she admitte d to pulling her parents, as well as those boys last summer, out of the computer dark ages.
And the final word, in case there still are lingering doubts or was this a gauntlet tossed at boys? came from Fetters:
"We know what w e are talking about."
LOAD-DATE: October 30, 1998
I don’t think my first comment made it through, so here’s what I’ve discovered. Libby is from Glendale, Wisconsin. Her name appears in an October 1998 article in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. It also looks like her father’s name is Donald J. Hoeller, of 6221 N. Sunnypoint Road, Glendale, Wisconsin!
O.K.- I’m about 75% sure Elizabeth M. Hoeller’s parent’s names are Donald and Bernadette Hoeller of Glendale, Wisconsin. Their telephone number is (414) 964-2294.
O.K.- I could be wrong, but I think that David A. Hoeller and Katherine Hoeller of Glendale, Wisconsin are Elizabeth M. Hoeller’s parents. Their address is 800 West Glen River Road, Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53217. Their telephone number is (414) 962-9657. The address for Donald and Bernadette Hoeller I gave above is possibly for her grandparents b/c they live very close to David and Katherine Hoeller and I found out Donald Hoeller is in his seventies. Although the mailing address is Milwaukee- they live VERY close to Glendale. Also note that if you look up these addresses on mapquest- a small college is very close to them (see Drunk University’s comments above).
Did you call and ask for her?
Word. I just stumbled onto this whole Libby Hoeler thing and this is great. Keep up the good sleuthin’!
Kudos to joesomebody!
where in the world is… libby hoeller? how’d ya find that shit ’somebody?
I think this e-detective thread is incredible. Good work, all of you, who contributed. I must say it sure takes the "anon" out of porn by putting reality to the pic/mpg to it…just goes to show..NEVER put your personal porn in electronic format!!!
How can i download the delta zeta slut video? It asks for a password and username.
LIBBY HOELER ES UNA DIOSA
NO SE COMO LA INCOMPRENDEN
OJALA UN DIA VENGA A MEXICO
Damn, youse guys are some sleuthful, morley shafer, mofos. fascinating thread to read. i’m sure it sucks to be libby this days, but dammnnn, she give me a chubby. Regarding the other chick from the host’s school, nice - but she ain’t no libby hoeller. And based on her 2nd vid, is her nickname around campus something like mudflaps or beef curtains?
Damn. Since I can’t decide whether to be proud or ashamed for following all of this e-detective work, I will defer to awe. Thanks for the entertainment!
are the links fixed i tried getting them like a week ago with no luck… new url?
damn guys. I am freaking laughing my ass off at the sleuth work you have done to find one chick.. albeit fun chick.. I am not believing some of you guys determination.. I have a really crazy Idea.. use that work in school and let this poor girl be!! haha.. well if you are keeping the torch for her.. why don’t you see if you can get her email addy, and tell her she has a fan following beyond her belief!!
for as far as i can get it this is happening in the US, right. I have never heard this heppening in Holland, mebey in the near futher. but i feel sorry for you Girl i realy do, aldo you ware the one cheating he should never have done this
Greetz
damn - my posts either never appear or get deleted.
like i said before - this whole thing seems a little odd to me cos in one of the videos you can clearly see a wedding band on her finger. (i think #4)
sort of blows the whole story to shit - wedding band hence no annoyed boyfriend…
but good work sleuth squad.
(*ping* - web site idea)
"Eddie" is wrong and this is why- the Jamie Seiberlich’s name, who Chris Spirito talked to by email (see above) shows up on the divine holy angle’s website: http://www.dsha.k12.wi.us/sports/rugby_ma.htm
So why would she talk about the video to Spirito if the Libby Hoeller who went to her high school is not in the video?
Maybe the ring is not a wedding band as Eddie suggests, but merely a ring.
So after finding your site tonight via. google I found myself mesmorized by your detective work to track down this poor chick. I too was amazed by her little naked dances to crappy pop music, but anyway, my contribution…an email address, mabey, I found it via a german website that somehow gave me the idea to check ICQ, and a very possible lead describes a girl who goes by "Libbs" outta Madison, Wisconson, unless this person did their homewok like you guys, and started a fake account the comments in their profile simply states "If you don’t Know me, don’t talk to me" anyway it could be a fake but I’ll let you guys try…lhpink69@yahoo.com, thats what I got, sounds a little too corny but whatevs, just a lea, let me know how you do.
Has anybody tried the phone numbers that are posted and actually talked or tried to talk to Libby?
I saw the videos a couple years ago when I was going to school at Michigan Tech. Well, now I find myself living and working in Madison, WI. So naturally I remembered the movies and did a search to find info. I looked her up on the U.W. website directory and got her email…emhoeller@students.wisc.edu or something like that. It too gave her address as being near Milwaukee, same phone number as given above. I wrote her but haven’t heard back yet. Kinda don’t feel like calling. No guts, no glory though right…so maybe I will.
Hi guys…
I think someone should set off a web site only for Libby…I think her story should become a WEB-LEGGENDARY-FACT…IT MAY PROBABLY PROVE "THE REALITY" OF THE WEB AND IT MIGHT SHOW EVERYBODY HOW CAN BE SERIOUS AND ALSO CRUEL THE http://WWW.
although she had become a leggend and she had got her private life ruined…I think she should be Mentioned as a STAR of the web….
please let me hear the latest news if somebody cans…write me.
#b#
Im fascinated with this whole thing… I was wondering since I think court records are public information if anyone knows how to do a search with her name on some sort of database with court records from Wisconsin… If the story is true there should be records of her exboyfriend in court right? Anyone who know how to do that sort of thing should go for it… Just to see how it really went down… (and by the way it was insane to hear her talked about on the howard stern show… i thought she was an underground thing until I heard her talked about on the radio) Great detective work hopefully you get a yearbook pic out of it!
A video got out of a girl from my high school last year when she was a junior of a tape that she made for her boyfriend. They broke up and it got out. Everybody in the whole school seen it. It is uploaded on the net somewhere. If you want to look it up her name is Amanda Murphy. Its not all that great since she gags during one part.
I just realized tonight that i had had her video for a long time… She is really beautiful… My heart truly goes out to her wherever she is.. and you people should just let this die… I wont insult anyone here.. Insults dont carry you very far in this world.. you know you are going to do what your going to do anyway.. i just wanted to say my piece…
Did the whole Google search thing,
anyone been able to find this Amanda Murphy video?
BTW. LibbyHoeller.com has already been bought at http://www.namingsolutions.com
Shame really…
I’m still for http://www.SleuthSquad.com
All those who bring and prove information about these net mysteries could get a kick back from the advertising revs.
Eddie
(the same one as above)
Ok, I like the vids (alot), and am mildly curious about the story of the girl, but jeez, do you HAVE to advertise her parents’ phone number and address? Uncool! Let her have her space.
I like to see nekked woman
Hey,
Just heard of Libby thru this site awhile back, but didn’t bother getting the videos. (i stay in the middle east by the way.) So, one morning i awaken with a stiffer, and decide to check out libby’s work. awesome videos indeed, and yes, she is rather pretty. I say she cheating on her boyfriend was a bad idea, but then again we’ve all made mistakes like that. Good job to all of you, as this story as well as the videos, has kept me quiet entertained. I do agree with some however, that maybe it’s gone too far, and i indeed would not want me, in a similar predicament. I do hope however, taht she eventually recovers from this, as i’m sure most of us have done a lot of kinky things, though not on tape.
Laters.
Ok, so there’s some interesting backstory to the Libby videos. But, does anyone know the story (rumor or fact) on one of my other favorites, called something like "Teen Sex 0030 NCSU - University Towers porno (18m14s).mpg" Check your favorite file share for it (it’s big 80+ worth).
It’s a couple of college students going at it in a dorm room. He seems to know that it’s being filmed because you can see him look right into the camera several times. She may or may not know, I can’t really tell.
Anyone know the story?
Hi, i’m from belgium and i wanna say DAMN i like that kind of web site.. especially this one. i wish i could do such a thing, one time in my life. anyway, big up to all of you….
Hi, i’m from belgium and i wanna say DAMN i like that kind of web site.. especially this one. i wish i could do such a thing, one time in my life. anyway, big up to all of you….
lIBBY IS THE SHIT. SHE IS AS SEXY AS THEY COME, AND WHO GIVES A RATS ASS IF SHE CHEATED ON HER BOYFRIEND.HE PROBABLY WASNT DOING HIS JOB ANYWAY.
I don’t think her life is ruined - she is pretty wild and obviously a great girlfriend! The kind of guy who would be offended for her past is not the type she would want for the future. I think some guy will be extremely lucky to have a woman willing to goto such lenghts to please him. If I was a few years younger I’d send her an e-mail myself. Keep it up girl! I admire you and think you are beautiful! …except for the cheating part!
I just read through this page and found it intence, sad and extreamly entertaining.
Damn people, where the hell do you even start looking for this kind of info. It’s scary to know this sort of stuff can happen. but then again, she was absolutly stupid as hell to film herself like that. I do feel sorry for her, and for her family. Imagine if you were her father, god that would be painfull… Don;t harass these people. It’s her own fault, but that doesn’t excuse you guys for makinjg it so damn hard. Don;t post phone numbers, way uncool.
Anyways, just wanted to put my two cents in. Thanks for the excellent read.
My sources say this song is actually about the Libby Hoeller even tho he discredits it in his song description. He is from Madison and it was written around the time she was reported to have left the UW so the timeline does fit. http://www.acidplanet.com/Lounge/Detail.asp?PID=96663
http://www.frognet.net/~jaknouse/geneal.htg/knaussmisc.html These are American families that have not yet been fitted into any American group. If you have information linking them into any family, please let me know! Group nine "Libby Hoeller"
Reply to Post by Joesomebody - 9:49am April 17, 2002
It is true, here’s the link http://www.dsha.k12.wi.us/Student/Jenny/guestbook.htm
The link that mentions libby hoeller in the Howard Stern Message Board. I don’t believe it mentions anything about this site though, but then again I didn’t read the whole page. http://thsmb.com/archives/11412890.htm
There’s another song titled "Libby I’m Listening", by Blue October I personally like it better than "Libby Holla" by B. Levesque. It was also recorded around the same time period
Here’s a cool site for ya’ll. Someone decided to make some money off the Libby Hoeller Collection. This site claims to have the 5 Part Postcard Series for sale with additionaly bonus videos. I read somewhere that she sent these videos through an onlne postcard site. You know these video’s could have been copied by a guy she was involved with in a online chat. In part 2 you can here the distinct Yahoo Knock and she pauses for a moment as if she were looking to see who just came online. Besides if she recorded these herself why wouldn’t she have edited them, bad music and video quality in some, the telephone rings in Part 3, and then Jay Leno in Part 4. The only thing I could make out of the Leno Monologue was Ali McBeal as a guest and he mentions "How many guy’s have seen the new movie _____ ? One guy, one guy that’s it. So if anyone knows what the movie was let me know. I must have listened to it for 30 minutes before I gave up. http://www7.gemm.com/c/search.pl? By the way I did find another Elizabeth Hoeller in Jefferson City, Mo. she was in the 12th Grade honor roll. But I guess this would not coincide with the timeline.
http://www.newstribune.com/stories/052800/com_0528000036.asp
http://www.fatima.k12.mo.us/clubs/FCCLA/fcclamembers.htm
wow all of you have done some great work. and hell yeah those videos are good. keep it up!!
Hey eveyone…i represent the libby hoeller florida association. glad to see that there is so much talk about her.
are you guys getting medical coverage up there in wisconson yet?
anyway, like all the work you guys are doing…and Libby - keep those videos cummin.
i emailed libby with the address talon_78 gave, turns out the mail was sent back. she dosent use that address anymore. hm oh well
joesomebody’s link to the guestbook contains some pictures too.
could the third girl from the left be libby?
http://www.dsha.k12.wi.us/Student/Jenny/graduation1.jpg
the other pics are here
http://www.dsha.k12.wi.us/Student/Jenny/graduation1.jpg
hey man i looked at that picture and a coulple of others on that site and OH MY GOD! she’s in 3 of them!
http://www.dsha.k12.wi.us/Student/Jenny/angelair1.jpg
^^^ in this one she’s the one in the top right hand corner.
http://www.dsha.k12.wi.us/Student/Jenny/angelair3.jpg
^^^ in this one she’s the one first from right with the really long hair, and a shirt with japanese writing on it.
http://www.dsha.k12.wi.us/Student/Jenny/pic1.jpg
^^^ in this one she’s the one on the left.
http://www.dsha.k12.wi.us/Student/Jenny/graduation1.jpg
^^^ in this one she’s fourth from left with two necklaces on.
i can’t frikkin believe it!!! it’s her! you can tell just look at her eyes…
here’s some to compare…
http://www.mijnexiseenheks.nl/images/groot/bscap29.jpg
http://www.mijnexiseenheks.nl/images/groot/bscap23.jpg
http://www.mijnexiseenheks.nl/images/groot/blah01.jpg
she even looks hot with clothes on!
oh by the way here’s what she wrote in the guest book…
"Hey Jen! Sorry I was diseased when I saw you last week and couldn’t talk. I’m over my mono now (finally!) so I’ll hopefully see you soon! I miss you a lot–hope everything is going well! Love ya babes, Libs"
here’s what her mom wrote…
"Dear Jenny, Libby keeps me posted on your progress. I’m glad to hear that things are looking up for you. We keep you and your family in our prayers every day. Mrs. Hoeller"
this is huge news!
to me anyway :)
edit- i obviously meant she’s in 4 not 3.
also it looks like she has naturally dark hair. she must have lightened it in the videos…
i agree it’s the same girl you pointed out in all of the pics mike, except for the last one with 2 necklaces, that one of not positive about.
but is it really libby? i’m not so sure. maybe that’s because i have really crappy versions of the videos, or maybe i should just watch them again a few times and try to pay attention to her face this time :)
anyway, i’m curious what others think about this. is it really libby in the pics or not?
ow, by the way if it is her, then she’s in http://www.dsha.k12.wi.us/Student/Jenny/angelair2.jpg too. front row, far right.
well the one with the necklace is at graduation so she was older. i think in that one she looks more like she does in the videos because she lightened her hair like she did in the videos.
http://www.dsha.k12.wi.us/Student/Jenny/angelair2.jpg
^^^ i was going to post this one too but it was to hard to tell because it was far away and she was squinting… it could be though. im positive the other ones are her because she and her mother both leave comments in the guestbook which makes me think they were very good friends hence all the pictures with her in them.
http://www.dsha.k12.wi.us/Student/Jenny/angelair1.jpg
^^^ in this one she’s in her ANGELAIRES outfit which is some sort of swing choir that was at her highshcool. that’s another reason im pretty sure it’s her.
yeah watch the videos again you can tell by her face.
http://www.dsha.k12.wi.us/Student/Angelaires/angel1.htm
^^^ here’s the ANGELAIRES site…
I was thinking the same thing, but I couln’t be certain that it was Libby in these pictures. I thought the pictures were of Jenny, look at the opening web page here and let me know what you think. http://www.dsha.k12.wi.us/Student/Jenny/MainPage.htm
http://www.dsha.k12.wi.us/Student/Jenny/pic1.jpg
^^^ you can’t look at that picture and not think it’s her on the left. that chick jenny is sitting next to her…
also check out the date in bottom right hand corner (jun 13, 1994). so she was a lot younger there.
im 100 percent sure it’s her. although now i am questioning the graduation picture…
it’s jenny’s page alright. she’s the girl who appears in every one of the pics. we’re talking about libby, who’s there together with jenny in SOME of them. btw mike u’ve totally convinced me now :)
finally a believer! :) as soon as i saw them i knew! she’s hard to miss ;)
anybody thought of signing the guestbook…..
lol… something like i hope you get better. oh and by the way libbys hot :) i don’t think i could though…
yeah that would be just evil… would it?
besides i’m starting to feel sorry for libby now more than ever. she really looks a like a very smart girl, totally not deserving this fate. maybe we should give it a rest. yeah i think i will.
i agree no one deserves what happen to her. although she doesn’t seem like the kinda girl that would let this ruin her life. im sure she’s over it and doesn’t know the extent she’s known/admired. well i hope so anyway because that would suck for her. although i don’t look at this as bad. just an exchange of info. no harm done :)
Well Mike, looking at the picture again I do believe that is Libby. And I also agree with your last post. I wouldn’t think that this would or has ruined her life. I think those videos were in very good taste considering they were meant for her boyfriend. I myself see her as the girl next door type. I think she’s very beautiful and hope she does well in life. Besides I don’t think her videos are anything to be ashamed of, maybe a little embarased… If anyone were to give her a hard time or judge her in a negative way, then those people are very shallow and their opinion really doesn’t matter.
I just have to say, this is the best and only forum I’ll keep with. I saw the "Libby Hoeler" videos awhile back, and out of respect for her will continue to use her nickname out of respect for her in my little speech. It’s said that she’s intelligent, which could be refuted by the fact that she so trustingly sent her boyfriend those vids. She seemed to be just really into the guy, and he was a fool for not forgiving her after her affair. I’ve been cheated on before, and it hurt like a motherfucker, but if you’re vengeful, you stop getting yours. Now this guy is probably with some trailer trash whose beauty doesn’t hold a candle to "Libby"’s, reflecting on the largest mistake he ever made. I know that telling you guys to quit stalking her would be futile, considering that you’re all so into her. With good reason too, I mean, she is gorgeous. But, I believe it was a poster by the name of Gollum who asked you guys not to post her parents phone numbers and stuff on the site. I recommend you take his advice. Anyway, I have a friend with the same last name as "Libby", Hoeller. For his protection from online prosecution, we’ll call him G. And yes, I will ask him and his parents if he has relatives in Wisconsin by the names given on this page. A chance to meet the infamous "Libby" is a once in a lifetime opportunity, after all, enough so that it’s peaked my interest. I’ll let you know what I find out. Sorry the speach was so long-winded.
A thought:
would anyone like to see "Libby" in a movie?
I’ve been giving this some careful consideration, and what if what she had to put up with throughout this ordeal is a part of something bigger? Her face is obviously starworthy, and anyone can act. She’s like the next Milla Johovich. As a young screenwriter/director, I would like to see her in a real film. I know people will say things like "shouldn’t she just be left alone?" Well, I think it should be her choice, and I wonder if she’s had a proposition like this yet. She could have a real feature film career that would be a shame to go to waste, and people who know her story would be proud to see her on the big screen. Post if you agree/disagree.
Does anyone know if if there are any new libby videos, i seen the complete libby hoeler download but was wondering if anyone has gotten creative and compiled some new videos?
Does anyone know stuff about things that are possible? If so I’ll take a shit in your bed and laugh at you when you lay in it… HAHAHA
heres another site with more libby info it’s actually a pretty cool site. http://www.beerorsex.com/news/arc0-2002.html